We dive into the absurd 2015 cult horror-comedy Llamageddon, breaking down its low-budget charm, bizarre creative choices, and whether “so bad it’s good” still counts as entertainment. Joined by special guest Mel (@melmoviereviewer on TikTok), we explore the world of indie horror, creature features, and the unexpected joy of watching a killer llama wreak havoc.
In this episode of The Never Seen It Podcast, we take on one of the wildest low-budget horror films out there: Llamageddon (2015). Yes, it’s exactly what it sounds like—a killer llama from outer space terrorizing a group of unsuspecting partygoers.
We’re joined by special guest Mel, a film content creator and horror enthusiast, who brings her love of low-budget cinema and creature features to the discussion. Together, we unpack what makes movies like this टिक (or completely fall apart).
We talk about the film’s origins as what feels like a student project, its rumored micro-budget, and how that DIY energy shows up in everything—from the inconsistent acting to the chaotic editing choices. Despite its flaws, we find ourselves oddly charmed by the sheer effort behind it.
A big part of our conversation centers on the idea of “so bad it’s good.” Is Llamageddon trying to be a legitimate horror film, or is it intentionally leaning into camp? We compare it to other cult classics and underground oddities, discussing how films gain cult status—even when they’re objectively… questionable.
We also break down some of the most memorable (and ridiculous) moments:
Mel shares her perspective as someone deeply embedded in the online film community, especially TikTok, where obscure and low-budget films can find new life. We explore how platforms like TikTok are helping these kinds of movies build niche audiences and potential cult followings.
We also get into the broader appeal of low-budget filmmaking—how limitations can actually fuel creativity, and why there’s something admirable about finishing a feature film no matter the quality. As filmmakers ourselves, we recognize the effort it takes to bring even a chaotic project like this to life.
By the end, we’re left asking: does intention matter more than execution? And is there still value in a movie that fails spectacularly—but memorably?
If you love weird movies, cult horror, or just hearing us try to make sense of absolute chaos, this episode is for you.
Welcome to the Never Seening Podcast, The only podcast called Never Seen It, and that's worth listening to.
With this tonight, Mr. Arnie, the One Man Party, aka.
Arnold Calo, Mr. Daily Dares, a.k.
Filipino Grigio, aka.
Alex Gallo, the Brothers Calo.
And then there's me, Boots Too big, aka.
Adrian Delat Torre.
And tonight, we have a special guest.
She's a movie enthusiast with a passion for low-budget horror driven
by the belief that creativity isn't limited by budget.
She's always on the lookout for fresh, unique stories told through film and TV.
She began creating content on TikTok in August of last year after returning
from a trip to Puerto Rico where she saw Bad Bunny perform.
Currently, she's expanding into YouTube, focusing on longer form content
like the video essays and in-depth film analysis, and she's also planning
to upgrade her equipment to improve the quality of her videos on Miami native
of Cuban and Guatemalan background.
She shares her life with three dogs, a great Dane, and two rescue puffs.
Ladies and gentle, welcome to the show.
Mel Movies, a.k.
Mel underscore is undersnderscore Barry underscore Extra
on TikTok.
Wel, Mel.
Welcome to the show.
Thank you for having me.
Of course, of course.
And the movie we're discussing tonight.
What movie of your choice was the 2015.
Lageddon
Now.
Smoking around with that fucking lava.
It will be explosive.
It who gets messing.
A killer llama from outer space crash lands on Earth
and brings death and destruction to everyone in its path.
So, Mal, you chose this movie.
Tell us, what is it about Lamaageddon that stuck out to you?
So I do have a very large watch list on
Letterbox and I watch a lot of low budget horror movies in hopes
that I find like maybe a hidden gem amongst maybe like low budget horror.
Because like I said, not always the budget dictatates how good
a film is and we can see that in a lot of movies.
So I'm looking for like creativity.
I'm looking for fun ideas
and maybe llamaageddon would be it and amas are cute.
I don't know.
It's called.
It was like a creature feature, low budget type of thing.
And I was willing to waste 67
minutes of my time to determine if it was good or not.
Oh, okay?
I have a question, actually.
So one of our, all guests was Gil
Bronco, who was the director and writer, creator of the film, A Halloween Feast.
Have you seen that film?
I don't think I've seen Halloween Feast.
That's a.
It sounds interesting
Yeah.
Yeah, you should really check that one out.
I think we were all pleasantly surprised about that one.
I think like it's a lower budget film, and I think it would be right up your alley.
Definitely.
I think you should, I think Gil Bronco, we could connect to you guys, too.
You could probably even even interview him as well.
Yeah.
He's on TikTok and he's great.
You know, it's a very fun movie.
It's It's very silly.
I think if you like Lamageddon, you might like Halloween The even more.
It's got like weird twists and turns.
That's kind of the vibe that that movie is.
It's also got like a legendary horror actress, too.
Lynn Lowry.
Lynn Lowry, yeah.
Lynn Lowry.
Yeah.
I'm sure the budget of Lageddon is, but
I read that it was a $3,000 budget.
It actually started as a, like a high school film project.
Interesting.
That's what feels like.T said.
It feels like a high school budget.
It feels like a student project.
Yeah.
I was told by my husband, so anyone can make a movie.
I'm like, that's correct.
Anyone can make a movie.
I think that's kind of the beauty of it, right?
You can get out, you can just sit out with the camera and some fake blood and allama.
If you have one, you nearby and then in post, just add red, glowing
eyes to it and you, boom, you got yourself a go movie.
And don't forget, you need at least a dozen shirts for that one guy. shirts and mix some t tops.
You noticed that too?
Dance shirts changed in every scene.
He even had a Star Trek shirt and he's like a Star Trek monologue.
Yeah.
Like an inside joke, I think it was supposed to all be aware of.
That's where most of the budget went.
T-shirt budget.
They were all the donated.
They hit the discount racks at the Goodwill, whenever discount day it was.
And they just said, take them.
Arnold, I have a question for you.
Do you think the changing of the T shirts in every shot was
indicative of the much larger theme of the changing of the guard and the social nature that we're currently in?
I don't, I think it was totally random.
Except, did you notice the part when I forget this the
sister's name, when she was like calling.
Oh, well, was Mel.
Yeah, that's right.
The sister's name is Mel.
When she was calling all her friends.
And then even one of them, she was like, hey, Spock.
And then, and then later
he was wearing a Star Trek shirt or long sleeve.
She had three different scenes of that.
I was like, Cassie, can you come in, Tammy, can you come to the party?
Yeah.
I was like, we only needed one effective shot of this.
Yeah.
So who was the people that died in the beginning?
Was that the parents of one of the guys?
It was the grandparents.
However, they looked good. the same age as the mom.
Yeah.
I know, right?
I was to say.
They was the grandparents, and then it was their house that they had the party in later.
Right
I found it so weird that, okay, they died
died, but then all the animals just stayed there.
Nobody.
No, like, animal control took them in.
When they arrived, there was a dog just roaming around the front porch.
Yes.
I thought that was..
A dog was later seen in the woods near the end.
Yeah, I noticed that.
Exactly.
I noticed a dog.
I did not catch that at all.
I was a shot that they were talking.
Mel was talking on the phone and the dog kept changing positions on the porch because of the h.
We needed to take the dog out of the scene.
What I found strange was how they were kind of inconsistent.
Like the one guy, they show up and he's like, you got to stay
you gotta do this or whatever.
And he starts talking in a really whiny voice. like, oh, why do I go?
And he like did that several more times throughout the movie.
And I had no idea what that was about.
Which guy was this?
It was the guy from the beginning when they pull up to the
house after the grandparents die.
And the mom or whoever the lady was turns to him and she
tells them something, and he's like, oh, I don't want to do that.
And he just starts talking.
Are you talking about the brother?
Yeah, that brother, yeah.
Floyd.
Floyd.
Floyd, yeah.
Floyd, yeah.
Why was he doing that?
What was that?
so weird.
That was
I honestly think that means they were just trying to set
a difference between like the pre-him having sex and post- having sex.
Because like if you notice Floyd.
Unflowered Floyd.
Yeah.
Which is I kind of find weird because like he got penetrated.
He became a man.
Yeah.
He became a man.
I mean, he became a man.
Yeah, that's what he did.
So Mel, let me ask you this,
and I'll ask this to the room as well.
What was the best part about this movie for you?
Like, what was it about this movie where you're like, yeah, this is dumb, but actually, you know, I liked..
Thellama?
I don't know.
The llama was so cute.
Every time thellama was there, I was like, okay, I'm in love with this llama.
It's so cute.
More llas. many more of them.
Because we only have the one.
So the get part, I don't get it. llama get it in.
We only got the one, then we have baby llamas, like or whatever in the first edge.
Oh, which was very cute too, by the way.
I was like, man, that is so freaking cute.
If we have like maybe five llas, I would have
This is so too cute.
Like, I just apparently there's terrible.
The music was not good.
And the mography lacked.
So really the only saving grace is the cute llama.
The cute llama.
Yeah, they made a sequel called Alpacalyps.
Alpocalypse.
Is that really a sequel?
Yeah, it came out
2024, actually.
Maybe we'll have to do a follow-up.
I guess we'll have to do a follow-up.
Yeah, um The llama thing I didn't get, like,
I understood it's like this is a creature feature where it's going to be like a
slasher where he goes in and starts, and there were some creative kills.
I will say that, that that first kill with the the guy
who he's giving it a cigarette and then it takes a puff of the cigarette and then it bites his finger off.
I thought that was funny, actually.
That was probably the only funny moment in the movie for me.
Arnold, did you have an opinion on that?
Well, you know what?
So,
on that, I'm a grandpa and a granddaughter lives next door
and one's 10 and one is one in like eight months.
And the one-year-old, they can came over at
that point when the guy was smoking the.
Was it a c cigarette or was it cigarette?
It's either a blunt or a carett a cigarette, but we had a blunt later.
Oh, okay.
Well, she walked in and she's all, Lama.
llama!
And then, and then the llama bites the dude's fingers off And then she had this
really like confusing face and was like, and then my wife was like, pause it, Pause it.
Because she has like llama toys.
Are you You may have scarred her for life, my friend..
Well, well, then it's easy.
I just distracted her.
I was like, look, look at, Oh, look at Duck, Ducky, Mickey Mouse Ducky.
And then she was fine.
Yeah, Hall of the she?
Oh, one.
She'll forget that.
Don't worry.
Yeah.
I hope.
But Arnold, since you're talking about it, yeah, so what was the standout moment for you Arnold?
There has to have been a moment in there that you were like, okay, this is this is actually kind of good.
There was a part there was one point where I started counting how many times a guy changed his shirt.
Was it azen?
I think it was more than a dozen.
It was a lot.
I stopped counting.
It wasn't just, it was like every other shot or something that we saw him in.
Every other shot and then every shot at the end.
Every single shot at the end.
Yeah, like That part that made me laugh was towards
the end when when they were like when the guys was throwing up.
But it was just like like a water faucet or like a hose or something.
It reminded me, Alex, of your high school Spanish class
your film project.
The trilogy that we made?
The trilogy that we made?
Ooh, you guys made a trilogy.
You guys did use a hose, too.
It was a spoof on Wayne's World.
It was called Oh, nice.
Mundo dean.
Oora deer fiesta.
Why did you make it Spanish?
Because it was for Spanish Spanish.
Oh, because it was more Spanish..
Yeah.
Like, so we were allowed to either do like a
presentation in front of the class or we could do a presentation on video.
And so me and my three friends
decided to make a Wayne's
World spoof in Spanish.
And it was like.
I played an extra.
Yeah.
I don't know a few scenes.
Do you still own that?
I still have it.
I have it here somewhere.
You do?
I haven't.
Oh, yeah.
VHS.
We can digitize it.
I just.
Yeah, let's do a film festival of all our bad movies in high school and college.
I have a ton of like friends made movies and stuff like that.
I have one where like I think it was from my 18th birthday
My friends had put together this, like
as if I passed away or something.
Or no. eulogy?
No, wasn't it the story of Alex?
Well, it was the story of Alex. because it was kind of like they were joking
that I had passed away and they had like a, there was a scene where they
were at my funeral and like all the people were crying.
I can't remember it now, but it was just it was really stupid.
And there was a recreation of like the night that I was
born.
I think Arnold like played me.
I don't know as a baby.
I think so.
And our older brother, Donnie, he played our dad.
Yeah, that's right.
We'll yeah, we'll have to do an NSIP film festival eventually.
Yeah.
But yeah, the movie, so back to Lama again, because we have to talk about Lagageddon.
This is the movie of the night.
I'm reading an IMD movie that it's 69 minutes long.
Arnold.
And this is in line with the humor of the movie.
Now, I want to talk about the humor for a second, Melon.
I want to ask you this first.
You watch movies like The Room, you watch anything by Neil Breen.
I don't know if you know who Neil Breen is, but he makes these insane movies as well.
They make them with sincerity, right?
Like they're trying to make a good movie
and then the fact that it ends up being ridiculously bad is well. is part of the charm of it, right?
Did you get that with this movie?
Like, is this movie so bad, it's good or did you just think, like, what's your thoughts on that?
So there's a lot of interesting things.
I think this director is doing in this movie.
They have some close-up mouthshots, like a lot.
It's like a lot of like teeth.
Like you'll see every cavity in that tooth for whatever reason than multiple.le characters.
That's unusual, so I'm not sure if that's for comedic effect.
It's mostly odd.
You have a saxophone dance sequence that goes
on for way too long between the sister and Dan.
So...
it was a little funny at first that they broke out into Dan,
but then it just got kind of cringed.
Did this movie, did they try so hard
to be good, but it's bad?
Or did they?
Is it just bad, bad?
I don't know.
I see some creativity with the wear llama.
I can respect
a transformation sequence.
They were trying there.
I think that's why. probably the strongest part of this movie other than the cute llama.
Because that was actually like, okay, now we're getting somewhere that furry eggs.
Yeah.
Lllas.
It's the transformation.
What was to kill me?
They didn't really do anything with the were llama.
I kept expecting him to become a llama.
They couldn't just dropped that like almost immediately.
They could have dropped the party immediately and just done more wear a llama.
That would be better.
But wasn't wasn't he supposed to be like the carrier?
Like, that's how he was supposed to, like, the eggs were too proliferate.
Like, he was the one that was like birthing the eggs
at the very end.
He a surrogate a lot of.
Yeah, he birthed a dozen.
Yeah.
It's funny.
I really hated this film at first, but then
I gave the, gave it a date to kind of marinate, and I was like, okay,
well, this is like just like traa.
Troma makes like really bad movies on purpose.
I know we had this conversation earlier on.
We were saying kind of like to your point A, Adrian, you're like, are they
trying to be sincere are they really just trying to make a bad movie?
And at first we were kind of like shitting on it being like, they're not really trying to be sincere.
And that's why it's like a bad movie for the sake of being a bad movie.
But then that's part of the charm, right?
I think a lot of what Lloyd Kaufman did in
Troma was very tongue-in-cheek.
We are making a bad movie, so let's lean into it.
Like, we're We're doing the best that we can with what we have.
So let's lean into it and be
And that's, I look at it now and I think about just, the
stupid Spanish movie, you know, Spanish class movie that I did.
And like we had zero budget.
We had a video camera that we borrowed from our neighbor and we
filmed this trilogy of like Spanish class films.
It was dumb.
By the third film, like, come by the third video, we were like, we
lost steam and it was just like just doing it just to do it.
But at the same time I like all three of them were just like,
we did it because we were having fun.
And I will say, like, you know, it takes a lot of effort to make
a movie, you know, and to these guys' credit, like, imagine, Alex, you, you, you got tired after doing
what, a 20 minute, 50 minute thing?
Imagine doing like an hour, hour and a half long movie.
Like, it takes a lot of time and energy to do that.
I think any filmmaker will appreciate what the amount of effort that it takes.
And this movie did have effort put into it.
Like, I'm, I'm not going to lie, right?
Like there was, there was some good practical effects for what it's worth
Yeah, even the V effects, like the post-V effects that
they made with the llas and the lasers and all that crazy stuff, like all that takes effort in planning.
You got to be as strategic as possible.
The use of the animation as well to fill in the cracks.
Yeah.
That's right.
There was animation.
Yeah, I forgot about that.
That's a whole nother aspect.
Like someone had to make that.
I felt like they could have used a little bit more..
I thought that was pretty cool.
The animation probably took like
40, 50 hours to make just for that little snippet that you.
I'm serious.
Like, it probably took that long.
Yeah, there was no chat GPT back then.
No, not in 2015.
No, that's not AI slop.
That's just regular..
Actually, no, that animation was cool.
It's not even slop.
It is.
Well, and I'll say now, like, I'll take human slop over AI
slop every day, because at least I know, oh, this is a piece of shit.
Well, you know what?
I know that human hands touch this piece of shit and made this piece of shit.
That's fine.
Those animation sequences could have easily made it
on to like the festival, like something like Spike and Mike's
sick and twisted Fil festival would have like absolutely put it into their rotation.
Yeah, they just bookended it because it was at the very beginning at the end.
Like they could have
they' like at least twice in the middle, I feel.
I'll put this this question into the room, but I'll start with the email.
Who do you think was the strongest character in this?
Besides a llama?
Besides a llama?
llama is so cute.
I think.
Okay, the strongest character.
Well, shout out to to Mel the Sister.
She's all right.
Maybe Dan, the one with the changing shirts.
He had a real over like resolve.
He wanted to play the game.
Yeah.
Did he Did he want to get laid?
No, that was the boyfriend
The boy was weird.
He needed to go.
No, but then he had a mission.
He said, play the game.
Let's get in the hot tub.
Let's have fun.
He wanted to have fun.
Then everyone died in the hot tub.
And then, you know..
Hot tub scene.
Wow.
They just got quickly eliminating.
You know what's funny about that scene, too?
is they had like two characters that I'd never seen throughout the whole film in the hot tub.
I know.
No, no, there's three.
Because there's there's the two guys that were like, there was the horse mask
guy and the guy that was sitting next to him.
And then
some girl who just randomly, those were those two, those two girls were just..
No, no, Sarah was one of them.
And then..
We were in the kitchen, the two girls.
I like there was eight people in that hot tub.
I'm confused people.
Like I'm confused too.
But hold on. how did the llama do that?
He like zapped the water.
The guy did it.
He had the radio and he dropped it himself, so the llama didn't even do that.
The llama only had like a few casualties.
Like he only killed a few people.
They killed themselves mostly.
That's so interesting.
I thought the llama zapped the hot tub and that's why I got.
had a.
Yeah.
It was the radio.
It was the radio.
I'm just making shit up now because I'm like, what the hell is this?
Yeah.
That makes more sense.
I was taking some notes in my little some of the, but.
But the two girls, they could come in and they're like, oh, they're all dancing.
And then they like step in and then they start getting electrocuted right.
No, no, they weren't dancing.
They're all like asleep.
Everybody's knocked out.
And then they thought.
No, no.
But the girls said it looks like they're dead. dancing.
Didn't she say something like that?
Like, let's join the dance party in the hot hotel.
Oh, yeah, that's right, because they they were all still like.
Because they were all like convulsing.
And she's like, oh, they're dancing.
Let's get in on this.
And then they step forward.
And then.
The dialogue was really rough in this movie. movie.
There was probably a lot of liberties given.
Yeah.
I don't even know that there was a script necessarily.
I think they kind of just did it off the cuff, scene by scene.
One of my favorite funny moments was the dad that comes in at the end to save them.
I thought it was funny how he's with his girlfriend or whatever or the girl that he's sleeping with.
He's like, I got a goo.
And he just like takes off.
She's like, the fuck?
No, she says something
funny. freaking weird.
No, she goes, you have grandkids or you have kids?
Yeah, yeah.
He's like old too.
She's like, you have kids?
Yeah.
Because she's kind of young.
That would be weird.
But then she say something else.
I was like, you got now you got even more or something like that.
She get like, oh, having some money. even more.
He said that, Gus, I guess she got..
I call it Preggle.
She got pregnant..
Is he a male prostitute?
Because like, she handed him money.
She
handed him money.
Yeah.
Oh, she did?
So he't what makes sense.
Is the dad a male prostitute?
That's a go. a gigolo, yeah.
That's a gigolo.
That would make sense.
Okay, it's making sense now.
That's why I have divor.
That's That's why the..
The kids don't go with the dad because he's a jiggle
Right, yeah.
Court order.
Arnold, did you have a favorite character at all?
When you said now, you know, who did he was like the strongest.
I was for the sake of like, trying to be different, like
other than, than Floyd and Mel.
I agree that, that Dan, he was the one who was like, let's do something.
Let's have fun.
Okay, let's play the game.
Like, you know, he kept the moving
And they kept it interesting with each shirt change.
hit a little bit of eagle, when they're like thinking of words to rhyme and he's all fit.
And he kisses his arm, his bison.
Yeah.
It was a lot of very campy acting.
Yeah, as someone who actively posts on TikTok a
lot, you're sort of in the TikTok movie, horror community.
Are movies like this, like are these the kind of movies that
you say kind of gain a cult following?
It might.
Some movies like, well, Poultrygeist is actually good.
But movies like that, they gain like a cult following for sure.
Yeah.
I saw I have a movie that got a bunch of views.
I guess from my channel, it's like Rctuma.
I think there's a little bit of a cult following with that.
It's such a weird movie about like an ass that that attacks people
like a Godzilla, like Ruma.
It's a very interesting.
You said that an Is that attacks?
Yeah.
Yeah, it's like a butt.
Just like a butt. it a butt?
Is it like a nice looking one?
perhaps?
It's.
It's probably a hairy butt.
It's like a Oh, no, okay.
That'd be scary.
Some of these movies, they do gain a cult following.
This one, I could see
I looked on YouTube for any kind of video analysis just for fun.
There's not a lot of people talking about it.
So, and it's not easy to find on streaming.
So I think that's why it's.
Well, you're the first now.
We're the first now, yeah.
I did a search on TikTok and a lot of videos came up.
I think TikTok is starting to be
more, well, not starting, but I feel like it's going
to have more of an underground vibe, maybe. maybe, because there's so many obscure
movies and shit that are out there, which I think this one kind of is.
I think it is.
And we did Rubber on the show.
Rubber was more high budget, but that was actually a good movie. rubber to this Islam again, and that's
a good movie.
Did you see Cocaine Bear?
Yes.
Cocaine Bear is an excellent movie.
That's a good movie.
For the premise of that movie, it's very good.
And you.
You told me off the air, you said, you seen Birddemic, right?
That's right.
For anyone listening, you guys should watch, you guys should check out the Birdemic trailer on YouTube.
It's It's the one of the best things I've ever seen.
The narrator Al's's like, this is Bob, and this is Sally.
And together they have
And I'm like, whoa, like, where's this coming from?
But yeah, the great trailer.
Alex, Mel, do you have have any interest in documentaries?
Because I'm kind of curious if you've seen Winneega Man.
I haven't seen that.
What is that documentary?
I'll watch a weird documentary.
So the Winneega Man, I was introduced to this by
hopefully a future guest that we have on.
His name is Michael.
He owns a restaurant here in San Diego.
He was telling me about this film.
And what it's about is this guy who was hired to
create these like sales pitch videos
that they would send to the company who makes these Winneagos.
And he had actually had had so much,
so many outtakes that somebody actually made
a film of this, a short film of all his outtakes, but they were
just really bad at him just going off on like the crew or
like him just getting mad at himself or like screwing up a line.
And he's like, what the it's it's just like very, very unhinged.
You could actually go on YouTube and find like a super cut
of like a lot of his flubs and just like the best of kind of stuff, you know?
But they made a documentary on that.
I'm trying to watch this other documentary.
I think I can find it somewhere.
It's called Caterpillar, somebody getting like the new eye colors.
What?
Lens?
It's like implanted in your eye.
Wow, that's crazy.
They were saying that like that documentary is gotten so popular in the Underground.
There's a comic convention in Portland
and what's his name from Walking Dead?
The motorcycle, the guy that rides the motorcycles..
He was doing a signing and he was curious as to why there
was this huge ass line that wasn't his.
He's like, what's going on?
And he sent one of his guys to go check it out and it was the guy from Winnebago Man.
And he he's gotten like such.
Norman Reedus was like, what is this line?
Yeah, why is this like a huge.
The Winnebago guy?
Yeah, the Winnebago guy.
He had gotten so popular that like
he'd made via convention circuit doing signings.
I guess he still does it to this day.
I don't think it's the documentary has
the power that it used to have, but like at the time when it came out,
people just were in love with this, this Winneego man.
I think this movie's done something right because it's 10 years old and we're talking about it.
So I think they've sort of reached cult status in a way,
maybe not as big cult status as other obscure horror movies, right?
Well, you said you saw a bunch on TikTok.
You saw a bunch of talks about it.
So maybe.
Yeah.
I haven't seen any TikToks about it.
What was the one where they stitched their mouths to their buttholes?
What was that one called?
Oh, Human Zenipede.
Human Zenopede.
Which one?
Oh, yeah, there's like, what, two of them?
Three of them?
Two of them?
I've seen I think I've seen like two of them.
Yeah, Arnold.
A Human centipede.
You should check those out.
It's basically a mad German scientist experiments
with these people and these stitches their mouths to each other's buttholes, like a centipede.
You've never heard of this?
No
I've never had it.
The only thing close to it is at
the beginning of one of the Wu-Tang's songs, they're doing like these like back and forth, like, oh, what would I do to you?
And he's like, I'm going to sew your asshole shut and keep feedinging you and feeding you.
And feeding you.
And then, that's made me think of that.
That's basically human zipede.
HLP's the chat.
He's recommending redneck Zombies.
Has anyone heard of this one?
I have not seen that.
That sounds something I would watch sounds like something I would watch, though.
Yeah.
Like something like very low budget that I've seen, this is incredibly low budget.
Slaw.
What year 2017?
Sla.
Slaw?
So instead of parity with coleslaw
Slaw.
It's really bad.
Does it involve like a mandolin?
Maybe?
Really sharp?
Well, yeah.
It's like they're killing people with
coleslaw, like drowning them in the coleslaw, like stuff like that.
Yeah.
That movie is really bad.
When it comes to food, you only get one first impression
Yeah, that's the tagline for for slump.
I think a bunch of wrestlers made it.
Really?
Oh, like.
There's a bunch of wrestling in that movie, like, for no reason.
We have a rusty in the chat.
Um, a friend.. is my friend from TikTok.
Nice.
Oh, Rusty reels.
Yeah, we follow him.
Yeah.
What's up,?
a lot of friends. movie releases and stuff like that.
Yeah, nice, nice.
He doesn't watch these terrible movies unless I recommend it.
Sometimes he doesn't watch these terrible movies.
You make a lot of, I have to say.
You make a lot of fun videos and I know, and explain this to me.
Maybe I'm getting this wrong.
You tend to do like, you sort of change your makeup and a way that relates to the thing you're talking about, right?
Like you have like a theme gone.
Tell me about that a little bit.
Yeah.
Well, Arnold does his dance.
Oh, there we go. 30 minutes.
You got it.
Yeah, how does the makeup thing work?
So I have I have a makeup IG, and that's just for fun, really.
I like makeup a lot.
And I like doing my makeup.
I do it every morning.
I do it for work just for fun and I do makeup for my videos.
They don't always relate to my videos, but I did have a
winter winter movie ones that I had more like a wintry, frosty look.
That was was pretty fun.
Yeah.
That one was more like a cosplay level, but normally
this like makeup like this is just my daily, everyday kind of makeup.
Dude, you cosp?
I have been known to cosplay.
Yeah.
I would do it sometimes.
What conventions do you attend?
I have previously attended stuff like, man, the one in Orlando.
What is it?
Is it Megacon?
Or hold on.
Maybe a Meggacon.
Not recently, though.
Okay. then there was one called like JCon.
There was a bunch of Miami as well that I've ca played at
I think there was a Nightmare or something like that, like dressed like a villain or something like that.
You ever been a.
San Diego Comic Clon?
No, I haven't been.
You should cosplay as one of the characters from this movie,
and it should be the character that changes his shirt all the time and just bring like a 100 shirts with you.
And that's all you do.
You just change...
And if anyone gets it, then you've like, like, you know, we're on the same page.
No, I'd want to be the wear llama.
That's more fun.
That'd be a good one.
HLP says, what are some of Mel's favorite cosplays that they've done??
I used to cosplay a lot like Sailor Saturn.
That would be like my Sailor Scout, Sailor Saturn, Freddy Krueger, something like that.
Nice.
But I think there's a convention coming up in Tampa that I'm going to.
I want to dress up like the Doja Cat from the
music video, which she's an alien.
Crap, what's the name of the song?
Need to know.
But instead of NASA, Project Hail Mary stuff.
And then I have a Rocky plush.
So now it's like I'm crossing music and movie boundaries there with my own.
That'd be awesome.
I still got to see that Project Hail Mary.
Oh, it's a good one.
shirt.
Amaz, Amaz.
Love the book.
Love the movie.
Mel, and let me ask you this.
While we're talking about, we're talking about Lama again, but I'm kind of inside baseball here.
How do you plan what you're going to say when you review a movie or a show?
Like, do you write out a script?
Like, what's your, I'm curious what your process is?
My process, I do not write a script.
It's probably obvious.
It's like,
because I, well, because I'm like loading, like, what am I saying next?
So I'll like write down a couple of points usually of like what I want to say.
And I spend more time on movies that I feel like deserve more time, if that makes sense.
Like I watch I watch a lot of movies.
So they don't always deserve a lot of time, unfortunately, I feel like that.
But some movies that I feel like are very good deserve more time.
So I'll make more points.
And I'll just say what I feel, I guess, pretty much.
And those accounts do the best, I've noticed.
Like, the accounts like yours that just kind of sound natural.
Like these are my raw thoughts, always seem to do the best.
And like, I'm over here like writing out scripts and I
was doing all this fancy editing and I'm like, I don't have to do any of that.
I can just talk to the camera and on TikTok.
You apparently blow up just from doing that.
So can.
I know some people, my friend, Binge with April.
If you don't follow her, she's very good.
She has like, you know, not a lot of editing, but she's just talking to herself.
She's really funny and I love her like mini reviews and like trailer reactions and stuff like that.
I talked to her about movies and stuff.
And you guys get good engagedagement from just being natural
right?
So what would you say, and I'm just curious, like, what would you say about Lageddon?
If you were to do a video, what would be like your one minute just elevator pitch for that movie?
It would be something like, I
did a video about it earlier because I'm going to post it later.
Oh, now I'm on the spot.
I'm recording in front of my camera.
It'll be something like, it'll be like
a movie about a llama Armageddon with only one llama.
It's only one ama.
One really cute llama.
Or a movie where the main character,
a llama is the best character in the whole movie and everybody else deserves
to die, which is true, except maybe Dan.
I'll spare him, but Floyd gotta go.
He's so annoying.
Even the sister Mel, she was annoying too.
They all got to go.
Dan, I'll keep him alive.
He was okay.
Yeah, you have a very, like, simple format.
I remember watching your Plus videos.
You were pointing out stuff and I was like, I didn't think about it like that.
That's a good point.
So
Oh, right.
I want to go a little bit into more analysis into my videos instead of.
It depends on the video because not, I watch a lot of found footage.
They don't have a lot of analysis to them, but other
movies and other videos, I mean, other movies do.
For those of you, tuning in, pretending like we're on the radio now.
We're talking about llama again.
It's a 2015 film about a killer llama from outer space
Lots of crazy VFXs.
It shoots lasers out of its red, constantly red glowing eyes.
There's a party happening with, I guess they kind of followed,
that horror trope of like, there's always a party with teenagers and there's
sex going on, which, by the way, those sex scenes were, I
don't even know what to say about those sex scenes, but that was ridiculous.
Arnold, did you have some thoughts on that?
You're laughing, so I'm curious if you had any thoughts it?
I didn't expect it.
the roles to be, you know, for Floyd to be penetrated.
And then, yeah, not a whole much to say.
Okay.
You'll have more to say later in our yeah, in our later segment.
But yeah, whatever else, guys?
Lamageddon.
I mean, that's the movie.
I was just reading..
I thought that like one of my favorite lines was that guy, the scientist.
He's like, he's been waiting his whole life for
Slipplay like this in reference to finding that furry egg.
I was like, hold on.
This specific moment, even waiting your whole life to find a furry egg.
I don't understand what kind of school he went to.
He was he saw this in a book and he's like, I hope one day I find this sort of egg.
I thought that was kind of ridiculous.
We never came back to those scientists again You never did.
They should have had like come out at the end, I think.
Yeah.
And then maybe we only had them for one day of filming, so that was it.
Maybe we' Maybe we see them in alocalypse, apocalypse.
Apocalypse, yeah.
Alpacal.
Alpacal. didn't't that like thor dude
use that as a reference to when he was when he was packing a bowl?
He's like, alpac a bowl.
And then he like does that like thing where he stands at the camera for a long time.
It's like, okay, that guy, he looked right at the camera.
Yeah.
And like breaking the fourth wall.
I thought he was going to say something to us.
Yeah.
And he looked away.
That was clearly a direction.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was like, you guys are you guys get what we're doing here, right?
You guys get the shit we're doing here, right?
We're making a dumb movie, you know it, right?
Now that we've talked about it more, I guess there is a bit of a charm to it.
Like, it's easy to hate on something this dumb.
It's easy to hate on camp, but like, you mentioned Alex Troma films earlier.
Like, those movies are campy as fuck, right?
And they have
a cool falling.
I' a huge fan ofoma.
And you're a huge fan, right?
There's a charm to it.
And like I said, this is a 10-y year old, almost 11 year old movie, and here we are talking about it.
HLP says, hey, up until my early teens,
I was waiting for my furry eggs quote from Arnie's chat.
Oh, Arnie, are you's leaking Arnold, your private chat is..
Well, I didn't That was one of the things I was laughing about.
I didn't want to read it, but HLP, he subscribes. now for context.
Arnold has a secret chat that only he has access to and
he reads us the most out of- pocket things from his secret chat,
which that's good engagement for the show.
So, yeah, that's Lammageddon.
I think we're at that point now.
Mel, let me start with you.
What are your final thoughts on Laageddon?
Lamageddon was not that bad.
It was like 69 minutes long, like you said, so barely over an hour
That's good.
It really didn't have enough material for that.
The acting no was probably the worst part.
It did have a plot, so I can respect that.
And it did have kind of like limitations of what the llama could do.
Also, the llama was very cute, and I wish you would have had more lawn llama.
Really, that's really what it is.
Maybe like a couple more llama.
I don't know.
They let that llama go inside that house.
I was like, youou're letting that llama go inside that house because they put it in.
It had like still like the leash to mouth leash from being handled
until they're dragging it along, like to film it doing stuff.
And I was like, we need to have more llas.
And I like how most shots of the llama are just like...
And then they just like put the glowing eyes on it and it's like, oh, okay,
now that's the, you know, but like you said, not a bad actor, not a bad actor for.
No, the llama was the best actor of that movie..
That's why everybody else deserved to go.
Sorry, they had to go.
I'm like, man, I just can't wait for these guys.
Everyone to be murdered here.
Oh, that girl, she was like trampled to death
with like the fake hoo punches.
Oh, man, that was a good idea.
I love that.
Okay, honestly, that was creative.
That was good.
That's a good point.
I did like that.
It was stupid as hell, but it was good.
It a good kind of stupid.
Where could people find you anything you want to plug or promote really quick?
Sure.
On my TikTok, it's Mel underscore
is underscore very underscore extra.
Or probably just Mel Movie is going to pop up.
And that's the same thing for IG.
And also that's it.
Nice.
But you can follow me on Letterbox.
If you want, that's Mel Movie too.
That's
Perfect.
Thank you for that, Mel.
Alex, final thoughts.
Where can people find you?
I have quite a bit of notes, but they're mostly just
like kind of comments, like me doing running MST3K commentary.
So let's go down the line.
Showing the name of the movie a second time just to make sure you're you
understand you're actually watching this dumb movie.
Also, only two cars left that funeral?
Small town.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Couldn't find a hotel, so let's stay at the site of a murder.
Practical.
Practical.
Are we expected to believe that this dude is going to survive this movie?
I think, I was referring to Floyd.
So the dog lives there and is self-sufficient.
Floyd like, there's a scene where Floyd is like still in his
shirt and tie, and his sister tells him to change into some other clothes.
And I was like, oh, Floyd's going to go change into his bley jumper.
He's been waiting his whole life and I already said that.
Use coasters.
Your grandparents are dead.
Hey, I have coasters.
I hate rings.
And then I thought this was a really funny scene.
So as Mel is texting, she's not looking at her phone to text.
She's looking at the floating text in the air.
So she's just like, she's tapping on her phone.
And she's like, I thought I was like, why the fuck is she looking in the air?
So this movie is sponsored by Bush Beer.
And then later on, at the very end, you see the
end credits and she said, I thought that was really, really weird.
Special thanks to Taco Bell before, special thanks
to the family fire department and police department.
Priorities straight.
That's it.
I said something kind of mean.
This is the definition of a comedy being hard.
Oh, yeah..
Comedy is hard hard.
So, yeah, that's just, like, those are my notes.
Like looking back after giving it a day to marinate how we had to deal with, what is that?
I don't want to say that would refer to that movie anymore.
Does it rhyme with blurbian film?
Yeah, yeah.
That's not a movie like this.
Yeah, no, no, no, no, no.
Like lighthearted and fun.
Yeah.
You're watching a highly disturbing movie.
Yeah, I know, but I. Or that's one of the most disturbing movies.
Yeah.
So it's like on the top.
But I was just saying that in the same vein of like
giving it a day to marinate, it did like raise my
star rating to a little bit higher.
I did give it a half.
I did raise it up to 01 one star. just for trying.
This is like, thanks for the attempt.
I wonder if it was on purpose that they made it 69 minutes.
Uh-huh.
It's probably an inside joke.
But yeah, one star, you could find me at Daily Dares on all of the socials.
Arnold
It's time for you to give us your final thoughts, and then you know what comes after that, my friend.
Well, gosh, overall, I didn't really like the movie very much.
You know, it did really dawn on me that, um, I
remember when looking it up, I was like, oh, it's only an hour and nine minutes.
It just didn't dawn on me until like you mentioned it earlier that
it was a 69 minute long movie.
I feel like they did that on purpose to make it.
They're like, hey, man, let's make this 69 minutes long..
And, you know, just for the.
Yeah, I just said, ha ha.
So let me say this.
You mentioned in the chat that it took you three hours to watch this 69 minute movie
And I think I know why.
So are we ready to just do it?
Should we just do it?
Should we just introduce the Arnolds newsmeter?
And Mel, this is a very important story. segment, so be ready for this.
It's time now for the Arnold Sn ameter.
So,
yeah, I' Arnold, why did it take you three hours to watch Lamageddon?
First night that I attempted to watch it, I put it on
and I was watching it on my phone, and then about
four minutes into it, I fell asleep.
And then I kept on rewinding it.
I was like, you know what?
I got one more day.
Let's try it tomorrow.
The same thing.
I was watching it on my phone and then I fell asleep again.
This was after a long day at work.
What happens to your phone when you're watching a movie and you fall asleep?
Does it just fall on your face?
I was on my side and I had it like propped up.
And then and then I woke up and then, well, actually, my wife was calling me
I was it was in the middle of watching the movie, but I fell asleep
and I looked, it was like 38 minutes into it.
So I was like, well, try this again.
Because I thought maybe if I cast it on the TV, I'd watch it on a bigger
screen, I'll have a better shot.
Well, we'll have problems casting it.
So we're like, okay, let's go for some tacos.
And then, um.
I just had a few tacos.
I had about eight tacos and then it was really good.
It's, you know, taco Tuesday
No ice cream, I hope.
No, no, no ice cream.
And beer.
But I did have a hamaika.
Hbiscus is great for your blood pressure.
So after about eight tac tacos.
I mean, they're like little tacos.
They can.
They're like little tacos.
They're like that big.
I like how you did this as in tacos and when it's
like also time out for Art because he's going to go sweet.
Taco time.
It's just It's taco time.
Because you's going to have time out for taco time.
Taco time.
Taco time and then also like food coma time.
Yeah, yeah, pretty much.
Well, so then so then last night at around 1015, I pulled through.
I was able to push through and finish the movie and I couldn't believe it.
I was like, man, I started I tried watching this and I was trying to start watching it since like 6 p.m.
Wow.
So let's get ready for the finals snooze score, Arnold.
I
give it a 4Z rating.
Oh, wow.
Very snoozy.
Zs, because it took me like three hours yesterday and
the night before, a lot of attempts of failed attempts because I just kept them while asleep.
I was a little bored of it, bored of the movie and kind of over it and was like,
I don't know.
It didn't really interest me that much, not my cup of tea and it was when
it then when I read into it a little bit.
Oh, yeah, and just for context, the Moo' Z's,
you know, the more times I fell asleep.
If it fills the zer.
It's a golf score, the higher the.
Yeah.
The less C's, the better, the more Z's the worse..
You want less..
Cs, yeah.
Yeah, that was like mid-Z's.
It was getting a little boring after 40 minutes.
Well, you know what?
I feel like I got to change it because
after having all those tacos, I think I'll change it to 3Z's.
I'll do threeZ's.
And because I did have all those tacos.
So I'll change it from a four to a 3Z. You can find me everywhere.
Arnie Calgo.
I'm that on Letterbox.
I'm that on all the socials TikTok.
What are the carneada tacos?
No, he said El Par.
I did
El Pastor.
Al Por.
And I also.. mixed it in With the pineapple, they have them put the pineapple on on the list store?
Yeah, they don't do that there.
That's not not real deal.
Right.
Well, it was a special.
I will say, so I just recently watched
Skinner Rank, which was kind of like a high, everybody's like a high falutin sort of like artsy
horror film.
And I was just as bored watching this movie as I was with Skinn andnk.
If not, I was more bored with Skinn andnk, so if to be fair..
That movie's more vibes.
It's vibes movie.
Sknk is like, you only get action in the last like two minutes of the movie.
Yeah.
Aside from that, you're just watching like walls and floors.
Yeah.
And sc And people going, you, come downstairs.
That movie was too long.
I was one of the first movies I've had to like fast forward to the end.
Is it just more of this?
It just seemed
just seemed like more of that.
I was waiting for the creepiness in Skin and Brink, and it never came along.
I was just bored.
Bored, bored, bored.
It was long.
It should have been like 40 minutes.s.
You know what I just thought of earlier, you said, oh,
oh, and this movie was sponsored by Bush, which I don't think so, because
there was at the part where Dan, he was like going to
get beers for everybody and he's holding them
and then it's like he he's all surprised that they're all like dead.
But then when he drops them, they don't sound like like full beers.
They're like empty beer cans.
Right.
I refute that because at the very end, they do say special thanks to Bush beer
on the credits.
But I think he did that because if you dropped like
real beer cans, it would all explode.
Exactly.
They're just prop startled.
If they were full so they had to be empty, they just didn't remove the empty sound.
They call that a practical effect.
Yeah.
Did you notice when they're making,
when Floyd was making drinks for the girl, I think they
were just really mixing water and Coca-Cola.
There was like Coca-Cola that was like in a liquor looking sort of bottle
because it was like really dark, almost like Jeggemeister.
I was like, what kind of liquor is that that?
But then, and then the liquid that they poured out of, they
mixed beer into it, but then it was clear like water.
I found I thought that that was kind of funny.
I'm surprised because I would assumed that they would have made
this drunk or under the influence of something.
I do believe that they were under the influence of something because they were really smoking.
That's true.
No CGI smoked.. she was puffing out her mouth.
That was real smoke.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
That's some real talent too.
They were definitely smoking.
Yeah.
Arnold, in your meat smoking days, were you able to do that?
This little rings?
Yeah, yeah.
But not like not as fast.
But yeah, I could do those.
Arnold's a method.
We know this, right?
You should say method.
You're the Daniel Day-Lewis of the group.
If Daniel Day Lewis smoked meth.
Google's Daniel Day-Lewis.
Write this down.
Daniel.
Daniel.
No, thanks for that, Arnold.
Oh, yeah.
Well, Well, last but not least, Mr. B OTZ.
Too big.
Thank you.
So, yeah, you know what I'll say really quick If the filmmakers are watching this right now.
Believe me, I say this with love.
I get it.
Making a movie is hard.
Even when you're goofing off and smoking weed and doing whatever
else, whatever other shenanigans, it's a lot of work.
And you still have to edit the dance.n thing.
You still have to do all the sound and the music and blah, blah, blah.
And look at that.
You've accomplished something because our show is talking about your 10 year old movie.
So if you see this, hit us up.
Maybe we'll do
alpacalypse together.
Apocalypse, Alpacalypse, whatever it is.
2.
Apocypse 2, yeah.
And I am going to upgrade my letter box score.
But, you know, having said all that, this is what I wrote for a letterterbox after
I watch Lummageddon, which is Lummagageddon is the kind of movie you watch
in its entirety while having a stroke, mainly because the pain from
a stroke might alleviate the pain from watching this movie.
There are plenty of examples of bad good films,
The Room, and pretty much anything by Neil Breen.
The is that those filmmakers sincerely thought they were making something
good.mageddon doesn't work on that front, because the filmmaker' intentionally set
out to make a so bad it's good movie, and it shows. everything
about this feels like they were trying too hard.
The acting, the cheap special effects, and the concept,
a killer llama from outer space that lands on Earth and terrorizes a group of people.
It's sloppily made on all fronts.
To give some credit, though, I can easily see this becoming a certified cult classic.
It fills the same niche as movies like Birdemic, Sharknado, cocaine Bear.
I'd argue that those films are much better
Overall, if you have an hour of your life, you'd like to
never get back. watch this movie, or have someone hit you in the face with a baseball bat.
The latter will leave you feel less empty inside.
And I am going to upgrade the score from half a star to one star.
And that's my review for Letterbox.
I love you can.
I love that when they went to the spaceship, the
spaceship, and they found that bat, I was just wrapped in clearly just wrapped in foil.
And he's like, it's a space weapon.
It's fake weapon.
And they don't even use it.
Like he uses it to like hit something so far, but then it's like, that's the only thing.
Oh, no.
You know what?
My letter box score is like a two.
Two and a half.
Oh, two and a half?
Because to me, I rate a lot of bad movies.
So to me, they're not that bad.
Like, I watch a lot of them.
You guys have probably watched good films all the time.
I watch a lot of bad films.
We watched some stinkers, but, you know, everything's relative, right?
Like, of that terrible cowboy movie with Kevin
Kevin.
Costler.
What's his name?
Kevin Costner.
Thank you.., always with the assist.
That was such a bad movie.
That was dumb.
That was.
That one didn't make sense.
It was a Horizon, an American Saga
starring Kevin D. That's so. haven't
It's awful.
Don't watch it.
Yeah, you're not going to.
But that's a good thing about this show, Mel is that like, we all have different tastes.
We all have different, like Imagine if we were all on here talking about Marvel movies.
I're like, oh my God, it's so good.
They're not all good.
Right.
That would get boring quick.
That's my score.
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Big thanks to Mr. HLP for providing the Arnold Snooza Meter music.
And yeah, thanks for listening.
Mel, I want to say really quick.
Thank you so much for being on with us.
It It was fun talking to you about this movie.
And if you have any other weird obscure movies you'd like us to down
the line, check out, let us know.
And uh, yeah, so thank you so much.
Thanks for having me.
I have so many, so many weird movies
Absolutely.
Any final thoughts from anybody?
I was just going to say, great to meet you, Mel.
I'm definitely going to follow you.
And thanks for thanks for being on.
I just want to say, this was the day I've been waiting for all my life.
Oh, do I God. got it?
Where's your furry egg?
Oh, That's basically the same effects.
Yeah.
People in my chat, Alex, are saying, oh, I got a furry egg for you.