In this episode of The Never Seen It Podcast, we dive into the 2025 horror film Good Boy, a uniquely told supernatural thriller seen almost entirely from a dog’s perspective. We explore its themes of illness, grief, generational trauma, and loyalty, while debating whether the haunting is real—or a metaphor for something far more human.
In this episode, we take on Good Boy (2025)—a haunting, emotionally strange horror film told largely through the eyes of a dog. The movie follows Indy, a loyal pup who moves with his owner Todd to a rural family home that may—or may not—be cursed. What begins as an eerie atmosphere slowly unfolds into something deeper, as the house, the illness, and the past all seem to blur together.
We talk about why this film stood out as such a bold experiment in visual storytelling, from its decision to shoot at a dog’s eye level to its near-total absence of human facial closeups. The perspective shift forces us to experience fear, confusion, and loss in a completely different way—and we debate whether the movie would even work without this creative choice.
Our conversation digs into the film’s layered themes:
Is the “monster” a literal supernatural entity—or a metaphor for disease and generational trauma?
Is the house cursed, or is it a symbol of inherited pain?
Can animals sense things we can’t—whether that’s illness, danger, or something beyond logic?
We also explore how Good Boy connects to other atmospheric horror films, the power of non-verbal storytelling, and why this movie feels more like a “vibes” experience than a traditional narrative. The discussion branches into topics like paranormal belief, emotional isolation, community, and how fear hits harder when an innocent animal is at the center of the story.
Finally, we talk about what makes Indy such a compelling “lead,” why this movie feels deeply human despite barely showing human faces, and how Good Boy uses horror as a lens for grief, loyalty, and letting go.
Welcome to the Never Seening Podcast, the only podcast called Never Seen
It That's worth listening to with us tonight.
Mr. Daily Dares, aka.
Alex Kalaleo, Mr. Donnie Appleseeded, aka.
Donnie Guzman.
Mr. Ghost Nerd, 88, aka.
Justin Holden.
And then there's me, Boots Too Big, aka.
Adrian Delat Torre.
And a return
friend of the show, guest host, Miss, that Denver girl, a.k.
Amber Wyatt.
Welcome back, Amber.
Nice to have you here, and tonight we are discussing
what I believe is the 2025 film Good Boy
I guess I'm next.
I should never come here.
A loyal dog moves to a rural family home with his
owner, Todd, only to discover supernatural forces lurking in the shadows.
As dark entities threaten his human companion,
the brave pup must fight to protect the one he loves most,
and it literally stars Indy the Dog, as Indy
the Dog, and this was directed by a Mr. Ben Lenberg
who, previous to this 10 years ago, directed Bears
Discover Fire, which is literally about bears discovering fire.
So he likes to use animals in his stories, which I find very very interesting.
Sounds like a YouTube video.
It does It's like an early day YouTube video.
Yeah.
Well, hey, man, you know, the next wave of great film horror directors is going to be YouTubers, apparently.
Yeah.
The way things are trending.
But yeah, it's a movie called called like Hundreds of Beavers.
Hundreds I like.
I haven't seen it.
I've.
I've heard about that one.
Yeah, and apparently there's hundreds of beavers in it.
You at beavers.
You had me at beavers.
Sounds like ad.
Yeah, so that's the plot line.
And Justin
this was your movie, so tell us, why did you choose Good Boy?
Well, I chose Goodboy because it's definitely
a different take on horror movies.
I know there's like a lot of, like kind of like in a violent nature.
Like that was kind of different because it was like the perspective
of, you know, the killer, obviously, the lurker and things like that.
So I thought it would have been like a little bit of a different take on
horror as well, especially like haunting movies, where instead of it being like
the perspective of a ghost, like in the movie Presence
with, I believe Lucy Li, which I haven't seen that yet either, but we'll I'll get around to that.
I feel like it's an interesting thing.
It's kind of like, you know, what is the animal's perspectiveive?
Because a lot of these movies have like animals in them and they're
just kind of their, you know, are in seeing the situation
with our main characters and things, but it never surely gives us an idea of
what are, what are our best friends and
feline companions and canine companions?
like, what is their perspective?
And I feel like this was a really unique opportunity
to watch something from a perspective of, you know, our best friend, a dog.
I really liked that.
That was such a unique, visual, like storytelling
method to use it to mostly largely tell
the story from the dog's perspective.
I liked that.
They really went to great lengths to not show like any of the human characters' faces, I noticed.
Like it was very
you know, the way they framed everything was really, like, deliberately,
let's just focus on, uh, on the dog.
And it worked.
Well, if you noticed, too, that, like, not only did they
not show the human' faces, they
also shot everything, almost everything at the eye level of the dog.
That's true.
And I don't know why I thought I thought you had mentioned Justin in
the maybe like, they put a camera on the dog's back and then that's how they filmed the whole thing.
But that wasn't the case.
No, no.
That would I would have definitely said, oh, it's like
found footage style horror or POV horror from the dog's perspective.
But no, no, this is an actual like horror movie filmed from
you know, generally a perspective from Ind the Duck.
Right.
And do you think this could have worked any other way?
Like, if they had done it in a traditional way, do you think the story still could have worked?
Or is that really the big, important gimmick shooting it from?
If it was sent for the dog, I think
this movie would have been a complete, like thrown
in the trash horror movie for me, it would have been really boring.
But knowing, I think the stakes of this movie were a little bit higher,
knowing that it was an animal, um, you know,
witnessing what was happening versus if it were like a human.
I think I've said this before in
a previous episodes put it it's like when it comes to horror
movies, I barely don't give a shit about the human characters that die
or go through certain things because maybe I just don't
have a moral compass when it comes to humans dying in horror movies, but
but when it comes to animals, I think it kind of hits you from like more in the feels.
You're a little bit more stressed out.
I I felt very stressed out when I was watching this movie.
because you don't want anything to happen to the poor guy.
He's so cute and lovable.
I'm not even a dog person.
Even I was like, oh, no, Andy, don't go in there.
Oh, no.
So that really says something.
That was really well done.
But and by the way, spoilers ahead, we should we need need to mention this at the top of every episode.
Spoilers ahead.
If you haven't watched Good Boy, yeah, we're going to go through it.
So this is your chance now to go watch it and then come back.
Yeah, HLP is also joining us in the chat.
He says, hello hello
He says, because he is a good boy, give me food.
Okay, that's true HOP.
And by the way, HOP also provided us our snooze and meter music.
Arnold's not here tonight, unfortunately.
He is catching up on football games.
I don't know why.
busy, busy guy.
But yeah, we're talking about Good Boys.
So explain to me really quick.
I thought that the weird monster looking
thing was like the grandpa or the guy.
Who was the old guy?
He was there grandpa or his dead dad or something?
I think that it represented the the generational curse.
If you think about, they actually mentioned it at the very beginning of the movie.
Like this cursed home.
The neighbor
is like, oh, you'reoving in there?
You know, just kind of kind of puzzled.
And I think that leads into,
you know, is this really a curse or do all of them carry
this gene that gives them whatever illness that they they come down with?
Is there mold in the building?
It's an old building
It could be interpreted in so many different ways, but
that whole thing, it's definitely an occurrence, you know, represents that.
Was the house abandoned or was it just
like, it was just there and the guy recently died?
Okay, because I was going to say, if it was abandoned, that was the cleanest abandoned house I've ever seen.
Like it was it was actually willed to the grandson.
If you watch, you see him watching that video who he's
like, the grandfather is like naming off all the people he's giving all his assets to.
Like he gives everything else.
He's like, I can't remember.
He gives his
granddaughter or his daughter or something and he's like, it's
like almost a throwaway, but he truly loves his grandson and just gives him everything.
So, talk to me about this.
The other dog that's in in this movie, it's like a ghost dog or something.
Did that dog have a name?
I don't remember dog?
ghost..
Oh, that's right.
Throw it back to our ghost dog episode.
I don't recall them naming that other dog.
Justin, do do we know that?
Or I really don't remember.
I don' think I don't don't think they named that other dog,
but it must have been like obviously a dog that
used to live there with its previous owner and probably because
I think they kind of like insinuatedated that that
dog may have died the same way
that the human did at some point because you if
you notice that the that Indy is not impervious
to the entity that's there, like, obviously this
dog is directly affected by
the entity that is there.
And I think Indy was just lucky to have escaped the cl clutches.
But I think the dog Pryor
had no idea what the hell it was doing and its owner was probably a
little bit less responsible.
And I'm assuming that the dog
passed away due to whatever was going on.
I do believe he named the dog Lawrence Fishburne.ce, no.
No, no.
Forrest Whitaker, I'm sorry..
I messed up that joke.
I messed up that joke.
Sorry.
AI cut the p out..
What was Todd's deal, dude?
I don't understand, Todd.
Like What was going on?
Was he sick?
Did he have cancer?
Was it was it the ghost thing affecting him?
What was going on there with that guy?
I think it's like a illustration of
the cycle of illness.
How, like, you know, like if you you get ill and you're such a good
friend to me, it starts making me ill and then, you know, Alex
is upset and then he starts getting ill because I'm ill and it just, it's a cycle.
Like, even if you're not actually like getting cancer from somebody who
has cancer because it doesn't work that way, like you can become
ill from the stress and, you know, the dogs are kind of involved in that as well.
Right.
That's a good point.
But
what I was confused about is he goes to see, he goes to the
hospital at one point and they tell him it's too late.
I think he does have cancer.
Okay. because of that.
But I do think that it's also..
It's like I feel like it's it
is kind of like that curse that they have, that generational curse.
And because that he has that big tie to his
grandfather, how much, you know, I think that
he was kind of drawn to that house to come back.
I, you know, it's it could be interpreted in so many ways.
I mean, this movie is such like, um a ball of clay.
You know, you could take it and mold it to whatever you
really see fit to your interpretation because like
we are seeing it from a dog's point of view, right?
So
you could take whatever that dog's seeing in so many different ways.
Like, like, for instance, at the very beginning of the movie, they show
that montage of the, you know, indie growing up.
And then there's like a really quick scene of him like barking at nothing.
And then Todd's like, what are you barking at?
You know?
And it kind of, to me, that like shows that Indy had some sort of
sensitivity to the paranormal.
You know, that's how I interpret it.
Don't they say that dog's sense things?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right?
Like paranormal things.
I wish Ar a was here because he could speak on this.
Go ahead.
Maybe be paranormal, but also maybe like the illness to come.
Like he like could sense that.
Oh, yeah.
Some people say that, you know,
like, I don't know if it's just a country thing, but like they can sense when somebody's going to get sick.
That's true.
I've read that dogs can actually sniff cancer.
Well, they mentioned it at the very beginning of the movie.
And while, like Vera is talking to Todd in the car on
the phone, she's like, you know, Indy might be acting
that way because he's, you know,
sensing something is wrong with you.
Yeah.
I've heard that, yeah, the dogs can like sense like all kinds of illnesses.
Like they can tell if you're diabetic.
Yeah, they could sense that if like people are having seizures or are about to.
That's so interesting.
I do not know that.
And then, yeah, and then people who believe in like paranormal
stuff save it making sense ghosts and shit, right?
Justin, as you, as our resident horror guy, what do you think about that?
Like, do you think that was like, what, what's like the emotional core
for Indy in your mind?
For Indy, it was probably like watching
his owner kind of like, go through the
ins and out outs of like not only having to deal with whatever he's sick from, but also
dealing with the fact that this dog can obviously see that
something's not right here at this house.
Um, but is kind of like, I always
see that the way that Indy looks at Todd,
not in the sense of, well, I'm like 100% worried about you.
It's more of the, of like, why are you doing
these things more or less?
It kind of just looked like the dog was like
like, I'm obviously telling you something's wrong and you're not listening to me.
And it's just the dog has that kind of face throughout the entire movie.
I think Indy is doing his job
to kind of like doing his best to warn the owner
or warn Todd and let him know that, hey, hey, is something like is not right.
I think, I think that the point in the movie is where he
leaves them for work one day just alone by himself and
he just sits there at the door until like he returns.
It's kind of like
like, oh, why did you leave me here?
Type a deal.
Why are you such a dumbass and leaving me
in this spot when it obviously something's wrong?
So I think Indy did the best that
they could with trying to, you know
get the get Todd to be like, pay attention to
your surroundings and stop being such a dick.
You know, for real, though.
Oh, and by the way, I just wanted to like backtrack real quick.
So the other dog, the dog's name is Bandit.
Max is the dog that plays band.
Bandit, but Gotcha.
But that dog apparently was owned by
Todd's grandfather.
Now, Justin, I've never asked you this, but do you believe in ghosts?
So I'm definitely an atheist.
I don't really believe in a whole, I don't really believe in a whole lot.
My parents are watching this right now.
Yes, this is my coming out party.
Now, go ahead.
Do I believe, not necessarily.
I think I like more of the entertainment of it.
Like, I gush over ghost
adventures all the time, just because like, I think Zach is a cornball.
Probably a terrible person too, but I watch
it for the entertainment, not necessarily because I believe.
But there are times where I'm like, I'm like,
yeah, that's kind of a weird thing that happens.
You know, other than that, it's like, I watch it.
I watch ghost things specifically for entertainment purposes.
No, not because I believe.
If you were invited to the White House, which in this administration
is not out of the realm of possibility, and you took your dog with you and
he was growling outside the door of the Lincoln bedroom, would you be suspiciousicious that,
oh, shit, Lincoln's ghost might be behind that door or
something else?
Well, I would have Bella here
trained to detect if Bill Clinton is giving Donald Trump a blowjob.
So that would be the signifier.
Yeah, there you go.
And then I would be like, go attack.
Yeah Yeah, I think I think Lincoln's ghostost would be the least
evil thing in that white ride if you were I'd be very proud to meet Lincoln's ghost.
I'd be like, wowow, what a great day.
But I had Bella specifically trained to catch Bill Clinton giving Donald Trump a blowjob.
That's. vice versa.
Whatever happens.
It's very specific, but.
Yeah, very, very it'll come in handy one day, if you know what I mean.
Go through the process of how you train.
You don't want to know.
You don't want to know. a bunch of
hot dogs and dirty underwear.
Lots of oldies.
Old brats.
It's a bunch of old brats.
Donnie, what were your rapid fart thoughts after having watched Good Boy?
I thought it was a good story and different,
like, again, because it's from the perspective of the dog?
I think that dog died or that ghost is there to kind of warn Indy like you need to move on.
Because that's the grandpa's dog, right?
And he probably died waiting for the grandpa.
Like, you know, like he didn't move on.
He probably starved starved to death or something.
But that'sose that's what I think the purpose of the dog was,
like strictly for Indy, so Indy could move on in the end.
Did anybody else think there was going to be a showdown between Indy and
the ghost dog?
Did anybody else think that?
Or was was I the only one?
No, I didn't think so so.
I was..
You know what I mean?
Like a Jurassic Park 3member Jurassic Park 3, the T-
Rex versus the Spinosaurus?
The Spinosaurus.
It was way with Brandy.
What was it, Max?
bandit.
Bandit?
It just go at it.
You know what I mean?
But it never came.
I was telling Justin earlier, this movie is very much vibes
It's very vibe-based.
The second act of any screenplay is like always the hardest
thing to write because you can write an ending, you can write a beginning.
But the middle part, that's the tough part because now you
have to like keep everybody's attention.
And like the second act of this movie, I felt like it was very vibey.
It was a lot of shots
of indie scene things in the shadows and shit.
Like, what do you call them false scares, jump scares and things like that?
He got me a couple times.
He got me out several times too.
It's kind of shocked.
I was like, okay, eventually they're going to escalate and eventually you're going to see more.
And and you sort of do towards the end, like you see more of actually happening
But I feel like that middle chunk was a lot of like NDC's
shadow and then he sees like this outline and then like, and then
Todd comes up and then like nothing happens and then it just kind of repeats itself a little bit.
Am I the only one that felt that that was sort of that redundant
technique spread throughout the time?
entire middle part?
I honestly don't think so.
No, I do feel like they
use a lot of like non-dialogue stuff, but that's the whole thing.
It's coming from the perspective of a dog.
What do you expect him going to be like talking?
It's like, Re
You know what I mean?
No, that's not going to happen.
It's a dog.
He's not going to like, all of a sudden starts talking, Will, I was in the bedroom.
And then, you know what I mean?
Come on.
That's true.
Indy seems more emotionally stable than Todd.
And why was he being a dick to his sister over the phone at the end there?
Was it the disease messing with his mind
Well, what do we think about that?
I think she was just pestering him, right?
Also, I think that's common when someone's getting ready to experience something like that.
Like, a lot of times when people are going to commit suicide, they like,
um start being really mean to everybody because they don't want to hurt them.
Like, you know what I mean?
But they're like, I'm going to do this.
Yeah, they they also start getting rid of a lot of their own
things, which is what he did at the very beginning of the movie.
He sold all his things and moved into
this place.
He's like, I think he knew he was going to die.
But at the same time, he thought he could maybe
make it out to the other side on his own terms,
you know, but then he like sees himself like going down
that road and then he goes to the doctor's like, well, it's too late now.
Because he's like, you know, he's panicking.
You know, he's like, what do I do?
And so he goes to the doctor.
He's like, well, you know, like I I want in
to this trial, whatever.
And she's like, it's too late.
You should have come in earlier.
But he like took his time.
He's like, I and that's kind of how a lot of people are.
You know, they, they don't do things until it's almost too late.
Like it's, that's one of those things I'm I get out of this film.
It's like, don't do something if you have the time now to take care of it.
That's the whole thing.
That's like, he could have like, Todd could have repaired his relationship with his sister
could have, like, actually had somebody helping him along and like taking him to the doctor.
But he's like, no, I'm too stubborn.
I'm going to do this by myself.
I't going to do it.
You know, and that's the whole thing.
It's like, it's one of those things where you, it's,
it's a lesson about like community, you know?
You need people in your life
and they play such an
important role, as like small as you think their
life is in your own, they can be so integral in such a little ways.
And, you know, like that happens with so many things.
I'm sure we all have our own stories where like there were people in our lives
who, you know, they didn't seem like a big deal, but then they did something big for us.
And, you know, it changed our lives somehow.
And I I know I've had that several times.
I also feel like with it happening to his grandfather
too, and like we were talking about like generational curse,
like, it's a commentary on like, men, like manhood.
Like what's expected of men?
They're kind of, like to just, you know, like, don't be whining,
don't be, you know, and then it it's like, well, now I'm it out.
I should have whined a little bit.
Thehematically, that makes sense, right?
Because Todd seems like he's the kind of guy where it's like, I can do everything myself.
I don't need anybody's help.
I have my dog and that's it.
And I can understand that to a certain degree, right?
But yeah, I guess, you know, and his sister was trying to be part of his life and help him out.
I mean, she, she cared about him, even though he kept pushing her away
and she kept reaching out even after like he was treating her like shit.
Like, she still genuinely loved and cared about him and was concerned because
every time he'd like, like he'd go like a
day or so, whatever, not talking to her, you know,
she would get worried, obviously, which is why at the end of the movie,
she just, you know, decided that, because
he wasn't answering, wasn't communicating, she was going to go do
a quality of life check on him, you know, just in case, because she
probably knew something was happening, regardless if it was
the haunt, maybe maybe the haunting was metaphor for, you know, the cancer suicide.
Yeah, that's what I think it was too.
That's what I get out of that.
Yeah.
So, just to be clear, Todd does die at the end, right?
Abs.olutely.
Yes
He gets pulled into that like little tunnel
thing, spoilers, I guess, even though we said it earlier.
He gets he gets dragged into that tunnel by the mud ghost guy.
And yeah, he's dead.
And pretty much when his sister shows up
opens the door to see Indy there, she also
sees his dead body.. anybody else of Annihilation.
I did see.
Do you remember the end?
We did that on the podcast.
We did do that episode on the podcast.
Did we?
Yes.
It was a lot coming..
It was a wild.
Yeah, that was a while ago.
I am so bad at remembering my own show.
Well, so you remember the ending to that.
Remember she sees the
alien abrarition taking the same shape as her?
And there's like a hole or a crack in the wall or something?
It just reminded me of that moment, the end of Annihilation.
Yeah, I could say the similarities.
They both had relatively similar endings, although different, but
I can see where you're going.
I could see where you're going with it.
Did Anybody watch the movie Men, A24.
I did watch Men, yeah.
That was a strange move.
Did The vibes and the strangeness remind you of men at all.
I think men was definitely a little bit more on the strange side.
It was.
Yeah.
Spoiler alert, double spoiler alert.
If you haven't seen men., there is literally a scene where a character
immediately gets pregnant and gives birth to
other men and then that happens like two or three times.
Wait, is that a new., a man gets pregnant?
Yeah, a man gets pregnant. and then gives birth to another man who gets pregnant and gets birth to another man.
Is this the prequel to.
So is that twins?
spoiler.
In the movie Men, all the men shecounters
in that movie just so happens to be the same person, just in a different way.
Oh, Yeah.
Like, they don't look the same at first and then gradually they just
start looking the same and then you're like, wait a second.
This is definitely not the same guy.
Yeah.
How old is the same guy?
He's pretty new It's not that old.
Okay.
It's a couple a couple of years?
Yeah, I would say.
I've never heard it.
It's strange..
I always thought like if a man could give birth, would have come out of his.
You know what?
Never mind.
But men sort of answers that question and you
should watch it because it's a fucking weird movie, but in a good way.
But back to Good Boy, Ambersey, so you watched this movie just recently as well.
What were your sort of rapid fire thoughts on it?
One thing that stuck with me was the
lack of dialogue and how that kind of just
brought you back into remembering and experiencing
the dog's perspective.
And do you believe in ghosts?
I'm curious now.
I'm just going to go around the whole room.
I don't believe in in ghosts, but I. Okay, this is the thing.
I think that people have a gift.
Like, not on those, like, religious bullshit or nothing, but like, there's
people in the country that just like sit on their porch all day and like
I think they'd be seeing some shit because like they don't go to work or nothing.
Like the awareness has got to be like at its peak when
you don't worry about money or capitalism or, you know, like
participate in the, like economy or anything, they don't participate.
All right?
They just sit there and uh, maybe they're just liars.
I don't know.
But I don't believe that.
I believe that some people, when they don't,
they have a level of awareness that is unbeknownst to me
And therefore, it's kind of like a gift to
like have a sensitivity to like things that are
going on around us too, but we just don't notice it.
I don't notice it because I'm go, go, go all the time.
And like, you know what I mean?
You're like in the in the mix of things, but people who go really
slow, I've noticed, there's like a pattern.
Like, they're always the ones that say, like, and I've, I've,
I've known people to say like somebody's going to pass away and then like they do multiple times.
So I feel like that's something like you guys were talking about.
Like certain people can tune into that.
Like, it's just a level of awareness that like, is just totally
like, I don't think I'll ever experience it.
It's just something, it's a totally different lifestyle than like I've ever had
But, a lot of older people, you know, that just sit around and stuff.
It's kind of like when like you're like hanging
out on the street and you're like, you see this person crossing
the street and you're like, that person's going to get hit by a car and then it happens.
You know, that's like kind of I don't think it's the same, dude.
I like, hey, No, I can see that..
Just content fl.
If you're a robot DoorDash delivery
robot, you're going to get hit by a trainer or a car at some point.
So be careful.
But in all seriousness, though, yeah, I
do you guys think that dogs can sense that sort of paranormal shit?
Like, do you really think there's something to that in a way?
I' paranormal, but like, there's like, where do they say there's different, what do you call them?
It's like a sixth sense or whatever.
What you want to call it.
Yeah.
Sixth sense, right?
Yeah.
Any animal.
Any animal could be definitely more tuned in than us.
They don't do all that shit.
Yeah, because I think I think for me, like,
it does exist.
Like, I'm a skeptic, but like, I
think that whatever you want to call it,
you know, spirits, energy, whatever, you know,
dogs, all like Amber was saying, animals, nature, they're way more more connected to
you know, nature than we are.
We're so, so far removed.
Like, you know, and we, we've we've come so far with like
technology and like, it was kind of like, I
can't remember what movie it was, but they were, they were, they
were talking about how, like how people, humans have strayed away from
um, what is that, like how
nature like dictates itself and
how the, you know, in the sense that we're
not connected to nature anymore, you know?
It's a downward dog day.
Downward dog day.
I think you missed that.
HLP's hanging a 30 minuteute downward dog stretch break.
Arnold going to hear tonight, so there's nobody who's going to make their hits downline.
I'm doing it on behalf of Arnold.
But you know what I mean?
It's like, that's what it's..
I think that, you know, that's why people
always say, like, you know, dogs and animals in general have
a connection to the greater spiritual world, per se
That's why it reminds me of these people who are,
what do they say they call shoes, foot prisons, and they say
that you have to walk around barefoot naturally because that's all you connect with nature through the ground.
It's a little touch touching grass thing.
That was my next..
No, some people have put their butthole in the sun, too.
That will give me my next thing.
I'm going to do it Roland did that.
Yeah.
You did.
You.
Another reason why I think this is because,
not only because of the old people in the country, but like, whenever
you do, like, I'm really interested in like psychologyology
and like, I question, like, I'm skeptical skeptical
about, like psychology as we know it today, contemporary psychology.
Like, whenever they say, like, somebody's schizophrenic, like,
and they're having like hallucinations, like truly,
like, I wonder if we're having, because like, I'm not schizophrenic.
Like, I wonder if I'm having hallucinations because,
for example, like when you take like hallucinogenics,
like you feel more connected to nature and stuff like that, which is how like
our ancestors naturally were without all this bullshit in the way, right?
So like, how is that hallucinating?
And this isn't hallucinating?
That's like I'm hallucinating as a
capitalist, but if I was like fucking on shrooms all the time, I'd just actually be seeing reality.
I don't know.
But I don't like to do shrimp thing.
Are you saying the same for like ay
ahuasca?
Or anything that they call hallucinogenic?
I'm not buying it because you have to think about, you have to look at the history of the government.
When have they told the truth?
If it's called a hallucinogenic.
They never told the truth?
It's not a hallucinogenic.
It's probably like, we're hallucinating right now.
Like, I just don't believe them.
Like I just.
It's like the matrix where like, when you're taking hallucinogenics,
it's not, it's not necessarily us like having this psychoactive experience
We're actually disconnecting from the network.
And what we're experiencing is actually what our real world is.
You know what I do believe, though?
I think if anything, if there are any spiritual
things out there, if there are any heavens, gods, whatever
if there were, I believe animals,
all animals, all living beings that are not human-based,
have some sort of afterlife.
I feel like humans were fucked.
We've been sending for so long that we're
just fucked and we're just on a forever hell.
And then when we die, we go into nothingness.
That's how I believe things.
But I think animals, I think they're so pure, no matter matter what it is they do.
Animals are so pure that they have the
benefit of going somewhere in their afterlife.
You know what the way things are going?
I can't help but agree with you, Justin.
No, but what about a little baby that just like died like two hours later?
Or how about reincarnation?
Do you?
Straight to hell.
Straight to hell with that fucker.
Do you guys believe in like reincarnation?
I like the idea of reincarnation.
I don't know that I believe in it.
You know what I mean?
Like, you don't think it's possible..
I feel like there's much like in between
to be like, oh, you know, like, I would totally love to die
and become a squirrel, you know?
But what's to prevent you from becoming like the
most hunted, you know, you know, prey on the planet?
What's from you just being a particle in some water or
a standstill tree or a grain of sand or something like that?
Like What are the parameters of
reincarnation is my biggest thing?
You know what trips me out?
And I'm not talking about, like Silvia Brown and stuff, but you know how, like they use like, psychics to solve murders and shit?
And, like, they actually, like murders Williams?
Yeah, that shit's crazy.
Like, there's like, I don't know.
There's something out there that's like, that's unexplainable.
Oh, come on.
We watched the black phone.
We watched the black phone.
It's all up here.
It's all up here.
I have something to funny say later on about black phone, but let's continue.
I mean, you know, this movie, like
I said, there's so many things to think about.
As simple as the story is, because
it's really just about seeing these horrors through a dog's perspective.
And the great thing about the film
as a medium is that you can do a story like this where it's
mostly visuals, it's mostly vibes.
Well this couldn't be a novel as well as it is a movie.
You know what I mean?
It works so well as a movie to be able to see the story through the dog's eyes
I think my biggest issue with it is just that that middle part
just felt a little repetitive, but but I understand how like why they
sort of like went that direction because they really went through to
great lengths to like tell it from the dog's perspective.
And it's still such a human story, right?
Because the dog gets scared
The dog gets suspicious.
The dog like, you know, reacts, you know, and
I was surprised at how they sort of reserved a
time frame to actually have a scene where he barks a lot in one moment.
Adrian, I don't mean to interrupt, but, like, I have a legitimate question for it.
It's like
what do you think of like, okay, obviously this is a dog, but what do you think of Indian?
as like the actor, the main, you know, the main character of this movie?
Like, how do you feel that this dog, like, reciprocated
its like scenes, especially when it came to the more emotional scenes?
I'll tell you this.
I thought he was great.
I think Indy is a better actor as a dunk than most human actors, believe it or not.
There are several human actors that couldn't even hold the torch to Indy.
Whoever trained his dog does terms as an Oscar or some kind of a technical award.
The director trained.
This is his dog.
And this is only his second movie.
That's amazing, right?
I feel like the dog broke the cycle.
The generationational curse because he was the only one that moved on.
Right.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Like true.
That's true.
Raw was a hard ass.
Then his dog was, he made his dog a hard ass, just like him.
Then he made his grandson like that.
And then, but the, but what's his name?
Indy.
T. He's like, I'm going to be different.
I'm going to be different.
Like, I hope he's going to die, but I'm not going to
die.
I'm going with Va.
Yeah.
He makes a choice at the end when Vera arrives.
He looks back at the hole that Todd presumably
went into, and he looks up at Vera.
We don't even see what she looks like, but which is great framing, by the way.
And then he like makes a conscious choice to go with her.
And I thought that was so brilliant.
I'm like, wow.
So you have to think about this, though.
Like
Todd's body is still in the
bed. what he what Indy
was following was somewhat, spirit or spirit, right.
And it was going into that hole.
I didn't really.
Okay, I had an idea that may have happened, but I didn't really catch that.
Now that you're like talking about it, Alex, like, you see, he's that's crazy..
You're right.
Like he's he's laying in bed and he's like having his death throes.
And then he has his like, you know, his final breath.
And then all of a sudden he has that one, what what do they call it?
The death deathath knells?
Yeah Yeah.
So where it's just the last expiration.
Yeah.
But that's him, like, like, because Indy's like under the,
like, you know, like at the foot of the bed, and then you see Todd grab
onto Indies's like, like, almost as if like he's like, like scared
and he's like, like, and then
you see Todd get up
from under the bed and they're like, he's like, I can't
remember the dialogue, but then he, you see Todd
look back and you see Todd's body laying in the bed.
That was his whole..
I didn't I didn't even put it to it and two together.
I had an idea that like
so the way I'm putting to this together now
is that the ghost was pretty much waiting for Todd to die to take the soul.
And that's, you know, I don't know, piecing that together now
is insane because it's like, I saw that.
I really did, but I didn't really put two and two together until this moment in time.
And that's actually really really, really interesting and
in-depth stuff that I can think about for you a little bit.
Yeah, I'm like, oh, you know, that
that definitely makes the ending.
Like, for me, I kind of teared up at the ending, mostly
because of Indy, like at at the end of it all
stayed by his side, even if it was just his spirit being taken.
But like realizing that now I'm like, oh, man, I'm fl.
I'm floored by that.
Explains to me really quick, though.
What the hell is going on outside during the rainstorm?
Todd is inside.
He's having something going on and Indy's just on top of the doghouse
looking up through the window and it's raining.
It's pouring rain.
What was in the chain comes around him and the fucking guy's trying to take him.
I think that's's the curse.
I think that's curse.
That's like the whole thing of him like trying to protect his
owner, but the, you know, he, the owner also doing like
Todd wanting to do things on his own terms
he like, you know, pushed everybody away.
He pushes hisster away, even pushes India
away by like, he's like, I told you not to, I told you to stay.
This is like your punishment, you know?
Right.
But that's also kind of like that curse, like that
taking over him, you know?
And it's kind of like, you know, Indy
knows something's wrong and wants
to protect Todd from it.
So he he has to do something.
And so it's that whole thing where like, like
you're the curse is like probably like trying to prevent Indy
from trying to protect Todd, you know?
That's why you get the whole like, come back here.
You're like trying to
like snag Indie and prevent him from going
inside., you know, but you notice he gets back inside, you know?
Like, through, like through like all the shit he went through.
He's still like wasn't like by Todd's side.
And Todd realizes that that at the end, you know, but like, yeah, it's too late by then.
I kind of was watching this and I was like, it kind of makes me want to have a dog
because I's feels like they really are man's best friend.
It's funny that you mentioned that because I was literally just going
to bring up, you know, uh, like, and this happens in films all the time.
Like, whenever there's a popular film that happens to
involve an animal, everybody seems to want to go like purchase that exact breed.
And I was actually just like looking it up right now on like
uh, you know, animal adoptions based on popular movies
and how it's kind of like a a bad side
effect of like these popular movies because I'm sure after this movie, everybody wants an indie now.
They want to go name them indie and then they're going to find out that this
dog is worth thousands of dollars And they can't even they can't
even really afford to take care of them because like this type
of dog are the types that you, uh, put on a farm.
They're herding sheep, they're fetching ducks
whatever it is.
It's like they're high maintenance dogs that people don't realize
that they probably shouldn't be purchasing animals like this.
What breed was Indy?
He looked like a golden retriever mix of some kind.
He is a Nova Scotia duck toolling retriever.
Wow.
That's a hunting.
eresting.
Yeah.
Yeah, when we watched Gremins, I wanted to adopted Maguai.
Yeah, right.
Exactly.
Everybody wanted a Maguai, and instead we got stupid ass furbies.
And Grogu.
And Groger.
Grogu, yeah.
That's why I want to shoot at Inu because it's in every anime I watch.
I love that dog.
Yeah.
They're small, they're chill, they seem..,
they're kind of Apparently, they'rere very aggressive.
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah, so aggressive.
Yeah.
You know what's funny is
was that?
You know, DJ Day just going to DJ Day. front of the show.
His album, Land of a Thousand Chances,
the cover has Ashiba Inu.
And then it's taken at this Japanese bar where
the owner lets his dog sit at the bar.
But, you know, like, he was telling me, I was like, oh man, that dog's so cute.
He's like, oh, you know, you never know, man.
He was cool with me, but man, he told me
the Japanese bartender, the owner of that bar, was like, don't get too close to him.
You know, they'll bite.
That's true.
Sometimes cute things can be very aggressive.
I don't know what it is.
Yeah, like the gremlins.
The Gremlin asked what I was talking about, of course.
Well, yeah, yeah, that's the movie.
That is good boy.
Do we want to start going around the room and doing our final thoughts?
Or is there anything else we want to talk about before we do that, Justin?
Well, I just wanted to, yeah, I mean, we can get
into final thoughts after this, but I just wanted to
point out that, obviously the director
owns Indy, the dog, and trained Indy the dog as well.
So Indy is a very good boy and has a very good owner.
Obviously, you can see the love that, like,
even in like behind the scenes footage, you can tell this dog absolutely loves
Ben, was it Ben Lenberg, whatever?
Yeah.
Every shot was a glamour shot of Indy.
They had like this golden light just boom, right on him.
Yeah, Good boy first premiered at the 2025
South Southwest Film Festival on March 8th, but the
movie premiered theatrically on October 3rd.
Wow.
Yeah, so it did do its little tour there.
And the cool thing is, is that this movie had a $70,000 budget, which is insane.
$70,000?
And it garnered $8..7 million.
Wow, I was one of those people that went to go see it in the theaters.
Like I was like, that first weekend, I was like, I have to see this in the theaters.
Yeah.
You know, what's cool about it too, is, and theater is,
they had like a little kind of making of video
at the end.
It was really cool.
And what they, they talked about was how they were able to get Indy to do a lot of this stuff.
He's like, well, as you know, some of you know that
dogs in movies, they have a very short window to be able to do things.
Yeah.
So this film, they shot over a period of three years.
Three years?
Yeah, three years.
So they were like able to do almost like a scene every day
and I think they said like an hour or two
to be able to do the things that they needed to do with Indy.
So, like, every, like, for three years,
almost every single day, they had like him, you know, like the director.
And what it was kind of cool about it is like, the way,
you know, it's, it's the way they filmed it, there was actually a
lot of light and they actually, they had to do some color adjusting.
Because like, they wanted to be able to have, if you look at
like the scenes with like Indie where it's like very close up and everything and
it's like his his fur is very bright colored and everything.
Yeah.
It's because they shot it with a lot of light, but then they just changed the background to be like.
So they they set the, they actually showed a scene where
it was this indie.
I can't remember which one it was.
It looked like a very happy scene.
It was oh yeah, it was when he's like going through the house and he's like, oh, it almost
like looked very happy because it was all bright.
But because of the color grading for the background and
the tone and to make it like they made it look a
lot scarier than it really was.
So it was they did a really great job at like with the editing.
Were those close-up shots of his eyeballs like CG or were those real?
No, those were real..
Those look really good.
Real.
Wow.
I also wanted to note, because,
you know, obviously a dog can't go to the Oscars,
unfortunately, because the rules, the rules,
for of the Oscars prevent animals from winning awards, unfortunately.
But
I want to say that the Astrail Awards.
Not a dog, I't have to say.
Oh, he's's a dog, all right.
He's a dog.
No, the Astrafilm Awards, which I believe is the Australian Film Awards.
Indy won best performance in a horror thriller.
So that's actually a pretty big deal
They also won, let's
see, in Las Vegas in particular.,
the Las Vegas Film Critics Society, they won Best Animal
Per performance as well, and a multitude of like other words.
Oh, they won Best Animal Performance at the San Diego Fil
Crit Critics Society and so on so forth.
They won some in Texas.
So Indies' won a bunch of rewards, and the other fun fact thing is that
that at the Astra Awards, the director recorded
Indie Indies's accepted speech, which was kind of funny.
So he just kind of dubbed, dubbed for Indy
and said, hey, you know, I appreciate this stuff.
If it goes see it on YouTube, it's out there.
It's great.
I had no idea that was even a thing.
Well, good for Andy.
He deserves all the accolades and all the awards.
And all the treats.
And all the treats.
He is the goodest of boys.
All right, well, that's good.
That's some great fun facts.
Thank you for sharing that.
But yeah, let's go around the room and do our final thoughts.
And Justin, I'll start with you.
What are boys on?
Good boy.
Yeah, so Good boy.
2025.
Fantastic movie.
I love Andy.
He's so cute and I just want to cuddle him.
I will never be able to do that.
I'm pretty sure in my life.
But he's such a good actor.
He has such a charming face.
He's so cute.
And I think just because of the way that he looks like
his little cute face with his little brick tan nose,
I think that really kind of made
the the stakes a little bit higher for
the, you know, horror of this movie.
It made me be like, oh, so like I actually
watched this movie with Jess and like
she wasn't going to watch it if something happened to the animal.
So I like had to look it up for her.
So I guess I kind of had like a pre-spoiler more than anything,
but, you know, when I looked it up, it's, it literally states, it's like, no, Indy,
the dog does not die or get injured in the movie or anything like that
We're good.
We're good to watch it.
So, so if, you know,
spoiler, unfortunately, but if you do decide to go watch this movie, just know that nothing
terrible happens to Indy the dog, but everything terrible happens to the owner.
So just letting you know.
There may be some like spooky jump scares, I think the
design of the ghosts in particular.
He was like, it kind of reminded me of like the oil guy
from Fernoli The Last Rainforest.
He was, it was kind of like a sludge ghost monster thing.
Very, very interesting, very unique idea
Kind of reminds me of like those old, like tar
and tobacco ads and stuff.
Maybe that's also kind of like resemblance
of like, because, because I was reading Todd actually had like
um lung disease or something like that.
So maybe that's tar Ghost Monster is representative
of maybe his lung disease or something like that.
That tar monster kind of reminded me of like when we got slimed during the
SCDCC promo.
We were definitely the slime monsters then.
But we'll link that
photo of later on.
But anyway, I think and he did a wonderful job.
I think it's set up the tone.
Uh, I think the, I think the set design was
pretty well crafted because it was a very limited space and it made you feel very claustrophobic
Um, but a lot of big things were happening all the time.
So I think they used their budget and their scenery to their benefit.
I think this movie is just long enough to
you know, satisfy, you know, that
horror craving, that constant, like, you
know, back and forth between like what's going to happen next
and, um, you know, what is happening.
I think, I think even that small space kind of adds
to, uh, the intensity of the film
And the light, the lighting and set design.
although simple, again, they used what they had to the best
of abilities, what the budget they had.
Overall, very intense film.
It's not like the longest thing ever, like I was saying,
but I think it was just long enough
to have like a satisfying, long lasting
impression on myself.
And I hope that it has a lasting impression on anybody else who watches it as well.
I highly recommend it.
I would also probably watch it again.
So it's re-watchability is pretty high for me.
But other than that, I think I'm going to give
this movie a solid four and a half out of five.
You can find me on Letterbox, Go Nerd
88, or actually, I'm Shibbs the Zombie still on Letterbox, but
if you go to, you know, Shibbs a Zombie or Ghost Nerd 88,
you can just go to my links and it'll take you to my letterbox.
Awesome.
Thank you, Justin.
Yeah, clocks in in an hour and 13 minutes.
I, it's not even 90 minutes long, so
it's worth a watch.
Definitely.
So, Amber, I'll go to you next where can people find you.
And what are your final thoughts on?
Good boy.
Me, personally, I think it's so sweet how much Justin
loves dogs, but I'm not really like that.
I like dogs, but
I don't.
I had like, I think I have trauma because my dog died when
I was a kid, and then I just can't get another dog.
It's just Trixie forever.
I'm trying to ride for Trixie.
That's it.
So I like, um,
movies that really delve into like
the human experience more, I think.
So it was different for me.
And I appreciate how unique it was.
And I think it was very well done.
But for me, I'll give it a three because
it was just missing that for me.
Like I said, I'm really into psychology,
so, yeah, I really look forward to kind of like analyzing
characters, like human characters in that way.
But I think you guys did a great job of analyzing the dog.
And where it could people will find you.
Anything you want to plug really quick?
Yeah. upcoming projects, like that?
We have the Castle Rock Film Festival coming
up at the Sedalia Theater, nice.
April 10th, 11th and 12th.
So just hit me up on Instagram,
that Denver girl, if you're interested in getting tickets.
Perfect.
Thank you for that.
And yeah, Donnie, on to you next.
What are your final thoughts on Good boy?
I think it's a good movie.
I didn't understand it at first.
I had to like, you know, pull it back a couple times to see if I missed anything.
But I think the whole thing is just like a metaphor talking
about how, you know, death is inevitable and it
kind of matches like the whole story, you know, right, where the
monster gets more intense towards the end or whatever that is and entity.
And it's just like, almost as if it's like the Green Reaper taking him, right?
But I really appreciate
the creativity of it, how it's shot from that low angle.
And Ben's understanding of dogs.
I mean, I don't know if he believes that dogs have a sense,
but he obviously like uses that knowledge in this movie right?
So I thought that was pretty clever.
Overall, I would give it a three.
It was a little slow for me, but
yeah, it was it was good.
I respected the creative process of it.
I give it a three.
He could find me on Instagram, underscore Donnie Appleseed.
And on my letterbox, just Donnie Appleseed, no underscore for that.
Nice.
Thank you for that.
Yep.
All right, Alex, yeah, final thoughts and where people find you.
I feel that this is a great film for
you know, as simple of a story as it was.
I think we've we've done reviewed
a lot of films recently that had very
simple stories, but it doesn't
necessarily mean it's like, it can't be complex at the same time
You could draw so much of so much
complexity out of life in general and the, you know,
the metaphor of what this all is.
You can analyze it to from so many different ways.
You know, the curse, what is it?
Is it actually a curse?
Or is it just a metaphor for
you know, the generational trauma that they
probably went through, you know, like, you see the grandfather, he was definitely an asshole.
You know, he like treated, he treated people
mean he pushed people away and he died alone.
You know, he was obviously mean to his, like, didn't he like,
like call his daughter, like, like, like
Yeah, I can't remember what would say, but like, it was in in the video
where he was like talking about the inheritance, like bleep that word out, the C word.
But like,
at the same time, like, he was, you know, like you
one of the things I've noticed when it comes to dogs, dogsgs are very, very loyal.
Even if even when you're mean to them, they'll still be loyal to you.
And if you notice that they, like, even with the grandfather, he was mean.
Even during the scene where he like pushes India away, he's like, get away.
He's like, I told you to leave me alone. like
grabs his head and pushes and he's like a very mean thing, but
like Indy was like super loyal to him.
And that's kind of the
like a rarity in like the human realm, you know?
You know, like there are people who are like, you
know, willing to, I mean, I guess that's a trait that like Vera had, his sister.
She, like, he pushed her away so much and even at that
point where she still cared for Todd and
wanted to see him like get better and like get help.
And
you know, but also, you
know, respected his wishes to be left alone.
So she cared in that sense for him.
And, you know, so that's, there's that similarity
for between Indy and Vera, you know, that parallel.
But yeah, there's one thing that I I thought of.
Like at the very beginning of the movie, you see them entering
the house and they're like trying to get into the house and then
you hear a howl come out of the basement.
I'm kind of wondering if like Todd hears that or if it's
just Indy hearing it, you know?
That's kind of one of those things too.
You think about it like that whole, in that whole sense of like dogs have
dogs have that sixth sense of when it comes to the spiritual world.
And so it kind of plays into that story.
So yeah, I thought that was very interesting
Overall, I think it
was a very simple story, very, but very well
told they were able to like make it complex,
make it give it some depth, it some teeth to like,
you know, something to chew on.
And that's not a pun intended.
But like I give it a four.
I love this movie a lot.
If it ever comes out on like physical media, I would definitely buy it.
And for the guy who like says,
they'll never take us seriously if I'm eating on camera, here you go
I'll take me seriously.
Oh, one of our many cameras of love.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm Glad you bring that up.
It's not a professional of you.
I've been eating this whole episode.
Yeah.
I didn't even notice that.
I've been eating eating out
of wax because they Anyway.
Can I also bring up one thing before we cut to you, Adrian?
Absolutely.
So there's like something I forgot to mention.
At the very, very end of the movie, just before the credits roll.
Obviously, Vera takes
Indie and they're driving away.
And then like, you, you hear a whistling and whatnot.
And then Indy, Indy kind of like tucks his head back into the window.
Apparently that's apparently that's
Todd whistling and Indy is just pretty much noping the fuck out.
He's pretty much like, oh, that's that's enough for me, guys.
and then the credits roll.
So I just wanted to point that little detail out too, that it was Todd
calling to Indy probably one last time, but it
probably isn't Todd, you know, just saying.
But yeah, so you can find me at Daily Dares everywhere on the socials.
And then let's throw to you.
VOTZ2 big.
Yeah,
yeah, thank you so much.
She's not my mother, Tomodd.
Where's that from?
Anybody?
She's not my mother, too.
I remember the reference?
I remember Terminator 2.
Oh, that's right.
Justin, how did you not get that, brother?
I'm sorry..
It's familiar.!
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No, good stuff.
I enjoy good boy overall, you know, I always try to
watch everything through the lens of like, as a writer, I always try to watch everything through the lens of a writer.
And I think like that middle part is always, that's the
sticky wicket, as they like to say in the old days, right?
Because how do you keep the audience engaged
for the middle part of the story?
And I think they did a decent enough job of this movie.
I felt like some of the plot beats were slightly repetitive.
I think the ending was satisfying.
I think, I'm glad that Good boy made, Good boy.
I'm glad that the ending made it out alive in the end and
he got rescued basically by Vera, his sister
So I'm happy for that.
Very vibey movie, as I was saying to Justin earlier.
I think the beauty of the horror genre in general is
that like, it's kind of a sandbox genre.
There's no rules.
Like you can do whatever you want in horror.
I don't know that you can do that as freely in other genres
because I don't know if you, what do you guys think about that, but it seems like of horror.
You can do almost anything.
Like there's no limit.
Like this is a movie
entirely told from the dog's perspective.
You know, they couldn't do that in Anora, right?
They couldn't do that entirely from an A dog's perspective in that movie.
Like, it wouldn't work, really.
And if they did work, then, you know, kudos to you.
But with horror, you could do anything.
And I think that's the beauty of this genre.
So with that said, I enjoyed it a lot.
I'm going to give it a strong
3.5 stars out of five on Letterboxd.
And you can find me on Letterbox that Boots Too Big.
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Good boy, good boy.
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Good boy.