In this episode of the Never Seen It podcast, we discuss the 2007 Wes Anderson film, The Darjeeling Limited. We explore the film's themes of brotherhood, emotional baggage, and the unique visual style of Anderson. The conversation delves into character motivations, symbolism, and audience reactions, all while navigating technical difficulties during their live recording. The hosts share personal connections to the film and engage with their audience, making for a lively and insightful discussion. In this engaging conversation, we delved into Wes Anderson's 'Darjeeling Limited,' exploring its themes of sibling relationships, grief, and the role of music in storytelling. We discuss character development, personal reflections on loss, and the cinematic techniques that enhance the film's narrative. The conversation highlights the importance of family dynamics and communication, while also sharing personal experiences that resonate with the film's themes. We conclude with our final thoughts and ratings, emphasizing the film's impact and rewatchability.
In this episode of The Never Seen It Podcast, we take a deep dive into Wes Anderson’s 2007 film The Darjeeling Limited. Known for its pastel palettes, symmetrical frames, and quirky characters, this film offers more than just Anderson’s signature style—it’s a heartfelt exploration of grief, family, and the emotional baggage we all carry.
Join us as we unpack the complex relationships between three estranged brothers on a train journey across India. Along the way, we explore the film’s symbolism, its subtle humor, and how Anderson balances whimsy with weighty themes of loss, healing, and reconciliation. From the short film Hotel Chevalier to the perfectly curated soundtrack, we break down how cinematic techniques, music, and storytelling elevate the film’s emotional journey.
Throughout the episode, we share personal reflections on grief, sibling dynamics, and family communication, bringing our own experiences into the conversation. We also reflect on Wes Anderson’s evolving style, Bill Murray’s fleeting but symbolic cameo, and why rewatching this film reveals new details every time.
This episode was recorded live—with some delightful technical difficulties, stretches of banter, and audience engagement thrown in—making it one of our most personal and dynamic discussions yet.
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Welcome to the Never Seen It Podcast.
The only podcast called Never Seen It.
That's worth listening to.
Tonight, as always, I start I start with Arnoldight and with Arnold.
It's an Arnold sandwich.
Arnold, what are you speaking of?
What are you eating tonight?
besides coconut water?
Tonight, I have some papoosas on the way.
You ever have some pap?
I love me some papoosas.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah..
Don't make that dirty.
Don't make papoosas dirty.
Oh, it's so delicious.
With a little, you toss a little little bit of that salad and you put it on top.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah, with some salsa or some hot sauce.
Yeah, you got to blow on it like that too.
Yeah.
That's going on on the socials.
Aren't even One Man Party, a.k.
Arnold Kaleo with us tonight.
Mr. Daily Dares, a.k.
Phil Filipino Grigio, aka.
Alex Calo, the brother Kleo,
Mr. Donnie Appleseed, aka Donnie Guzman, the Cousins Calleo.
Although technically, you're not a Kleo, but it still works, so you guys are a cousin, so I'm going to keep it that way.
Mr. Ghost Nerd 88, aka.
Mr. Justin Holden.
And then there's me.
Boots Too Big, aka.
Adrian Deour.
And tonight,
we're discussing the 2007 Wes
Anderson movie The Darje Ling Limited
Is that my belt?
Can I borrow it?
Three American brothers, who have not spoken to each
other in a year, set off on a train voyage across
India with a plan to find themselves and
bond with each other, to become brothers again like they used to be.
Their spiritual quest, however
veers rapidly off course or off track,
due to events evolving over the counterpainkillers, eating cough syrup, and pepper spray.
And that is the 2007 film
Dar Yielding Limited by Wes Sanderson.
I have never seen it.
Who else here has never seen it besides me?
I. Who picked it?
Whose movie was this, actually?
I think it was mine.
It was your Oh, nice.
Unless somebody else picked it, also.
It wasn't me.
I thought it was Allie.
Oh it was you, Don.
I mean, Philippines Jews.
Yeah.
Okay, okay.
Well, why did you pick this movie?
Curious?
Well, it was just one of those movies that stood out to me.
I haven't seen it in like 20 years, almost.
Like, uh When did it come out?
2007?
It It's been a long time.
So I saw it when it first came out.
2010.
I think It's 2010 Was it 10?
Okay.
No, no, 2007.
I
pull up.
Yeah.
Yes.
This is like my, probably the, was it?
Oh, I was going to say, this is probably like my third Wes Sanderson movie.
First being Rushmore, and then I saw Royal Tenant Boms and then and then this one.
But when I saw this one, it was like, I was really able to pick
up on his like unique style of shooting.
And so I became a fan of Wes Anderson after seeing this one
During the time frame that I
watched it, I was also really into photography.
I was starting to dive deep into it.
And so a lot of it kind of resonated with me with his shooting style.
Like he uses a lot of symmetrical compositions,
very controlled color palettes in his movies that
you could see from like Eva Royal Tenbaum and Rushmore, but more so in this movie.
And even like the tracking shots.
So I know in photography you don't really have tracking shots, but if
you take one of his tracking shots and you paused it, you could see
you could see how it's set up and composed And I actually
like to do some of my shots like that where you leave a lot of space
in front of the subject and it just allows the picture to
breathe or allows the photo to breathe and tell a story.
And he does that a lot via film, but it resonates to me from the photography side of it.
So has a great storyline, but it's
Yeah, absolutely.
He has a very signature style of how he likes to learn his movies.
I feel like it's developed more and more
over the years from obviously between
2007 and now, that's a long time.
And he's really, really honed in on, that signature style of his.
Yeah, definitely.
It wasn't as pronounced in this movie, but I still think it works.
I
I was like ten.
The color palette, the color palette wasn't as like
super drastic or vibantrant, but they still were.
It's still there.
It's still everywhere.
It was just kind of like a natural, like the colors
that popped were like almost natural.
Like when the train, not the the ticket, the guy who takes the tickets
he was wearing a really bright green suit,
but it was it wasn't like he was trying really hard to make it..
This guy's wearing a bright green suit.
It was like, oh, that's what he would normally wear, you know?
And in that country, too, a lot of those kinds of colors do pop.
He does really good with contrasting.
Like if you look back even at Rushmore, when the main character is
standing on stage against the red drapes, he's wearing like a bright green suit, right?
It's like, it doesn't stand out, but it's very, like, those
colors definitely go together. when you look at the color wheel.
And he's really good at like sticking to stuff like that.
Hey, Donald.
Yeah.
Was this around the time, I remember you told
me the story when you were getting into photography and then
it was around a time when people were buying
a lot of like storage units and then he came up on one and
it had the like, good cameras.
Was this around that time?
time?
Yeah, it had a lot of it was it had a lot of like filters and stuff.
So I was playing around with, and I'm talking about filters that you screw onto the lens.
So, you know a lot of people utilize filters like an app now.
This one is Fish ey lens.
Yeah, even if you want like a a star effect, you
screw on this filter that makes lights, like create a star and certain sp.
Like a brown starfish.
I feel like you, if you guys are fans of
wrestling, you guys would know that because I feel like back in the 80s and 90s, you saw that star filter they used all the time.
Yeah, you did.
You do see that a lot, yeah.
How do I know that?
I don't even watch wrestling.
What the hell?
Starfish filter.
It's.
Star filter.
It's a starburst.
Oh, Starburst.
That's what it's called.
Yeah, that's actually what it's called.
I forgot what it was called, yeah.
Starburst.
Very famous in video nerd circles.
So you.
Okay, so Arnold, I want to start with you again because I know you also haven't seen it.
What was your perception of this movie before you watched it, Arnold?
I didn't.
I was like, let's see, Darjeing.
Is this a movie about the making of Dar Dareling tea?
It's one of my most favorite teas.
It's got a strong flavor, very dark
But, you know, I kind of got to be in the mood for it.
Totally, not that at all.
And then, but then also when I, when,
and shout out to Alex Filipino Agrigio, for,
for giving me the actual DVD
um, recently.
And so, um, I watched it on DVD
last night and
Oh, I was like, oh, it's got Owen Wilson.
I was like, oh, okay, so is it going to be like a, Owen Wilson?
Is that the Wright Wilson?
Owen Wilson.
You got the Wright Wilson.
You got the right Wilson here.
I was like, oh, is this going
to be like a funny, a fun, I
don't know, for whatever reason, whenever I think of Owen Wilson, I think of old school.
Was it old school?
Well, no, no, no.
Well, no, no.
No, wedding cras that's Will Ferrellll.
That's the other.
Oh, that's the, and and Will Ferrell.
The the wedding crashes for whatever reason.
And Vince Vaugh?
Vince Vaughn's in that?
Yeah. tax for, I believe.
Yeah, so my initial thoughts.
Well, you thought it was funny, right?
Like, you did think it was funny?
Yeah, I did.
I did.
I did find a lot of parts, you know, funny and entertaining.
Yeah.
So,
I was going to wait till the end, but I actually want to start this
conversation now because I think it's really interesting.
I was reading about this movie on record Reddit and the
movie opens with Bill Murray in a cab going to the
train station and when he gets to the line, he's like, that's my train.
And then he like, the next, the next shot is Adrian Brody and Bill Murray running towards the train
Bill Murray misses the train and Adrian Brody just kind of watches on.
And then, and I'm like, okay, I'm assuming they're
going to get to Bill Murray later on, like maybe in the halfway point or something like that.
And then we don't see him again until the very, very end
when there's that montage where they're showing all their respective people that they're worried about.
Like, I think it's like Jason Schwartzzen's girlfriend and Adrian Brody's pregnant wife.
And then there's a guy in a booked well, looks like a bookst, like a, I don't know what.
And then, then there's Bill Murray on a train
sipping on tea or something.
So what I was reading about was people on Reddit
saying that Bill Murray is is the figment, not the figmentation.
I don't know if that's a word.
Bill Murray represents. their late father.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So what do you guys think about that?
Alex, go ahead.
Yeah, because I really want to get into this.
That's my theory, because like if you think about it too, the
that whole scene of them of Bill Murray running to try to catch that train, right?
This is this is like the journey.
And if you think about it,
Adrian B Brody is running next to him, right?
Running next to him, and they're trying,
but they're both trying to catch that train, right?
But Bill Bill Murray isn't
able to catch the train, which kind of represents that
he kind of, like his passing, right?
He was unable to continue on that journey.
And Adrian Brody is leaving
him behind and they're looking at him.
And if you if you watch that scene, you're seeing him look
back at Bill Murray with this sort of look of like loss.
Yeah.
You know?
And they kind of just have to move forward.
And if you look at it, they're all carrying
their late father's bags, right?
And that's kind of..
Yes.
This is the thing I'm talking, like, like, it's kind of,
that's them carrying the JLW.
That's Jack.
I can't something.
What's this?
Anyways, that's the initials.
Yeah.
And throughout the whole, the whole movie there, they continuously
like are carrying these bags
around until the very end when they decide to just let them go.
You know?
They were carrying their father's baggage
around literally metaphorical package.
I love it when symbolism comes together.
It's like it's like they healing their healing journey coming to an end, right?
Like when they let go or when they
It's them letting.
Well, not.
Yeah, them letting go, not really coming to an end, but yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're moving forward without having to like carry,
knowing that they don't have to carry the baggage.
Acceptance.
Yeah.
You took all the words out of my mouth.
I was going to say all exactly that.
Liar.
No, I mean, the credits, Go ahead.
It mentioned Bill Murray as the businessman.
What the heck was that on?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it did.
His father was a businessman.
Yeah, because here's the thing.
If I wrote this movie, which I wish I had,
I wouldn't write their dead father, because now you're giving it away to the audience.
I'd rather the audience work for it and make it out themselves.
So it's like, yeah, the businessman.
Like, that's perfect.
Like, I mean, and who wrote this?
This was written by Schwartzman, by the way, Schwartzman, Wes Anderson, and
Roman Coppola.
Where have we heard that name before?
I guess the Is he the brother?
Is he the son of Francis Ford?
Yeah, he is.
But if you think about it.
Well I'll a research department look into that.
Go ahead.
In true romance, they don't call Elvis Presley Elvis Presley.
They call him the mentor.
That's a great point.
Yeah.
What do they call the cowboy in Big Lev out?
owski?
What do they call him?
Was it the stranger?
Was it just the stranger?
Yeah, it was a stranger.
It wasn't a wise guy.
It was It was a wise guy.
No, that was in Goodfellas.
That was in Goodfellas.
Yeah.
He's cooking with.
Schartzman's.
This is Schwartzman's first writing credit, by the way.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
He only has like five. and three of them are with Wes Craven.
I mean, Wes Anderson's.
Wes Anderson.
Oh, that'd be interesting collabor right there even though Wes Cra.
Not Wes Craven.
Sorry.
I
Yeah, so Roman Coppola is
the son of Francis Ford and the brother to Sophia,
which we've done her movie on here.
I can't even think of the name of that.
Lost in translation, which also had Bill Murray.
I don't really like Jason Schwartzman, by the way.
Every time I see him in something, I'm always excited because he's like, I feel like he
hasn't been in much lately, but when like, you know, this era, he was like in everything.
He was he had a show.
What was that show that he had with
I didn't even think of the name.
Something out of death in the time.
Yeah, it was it was like he plays like a detective or a private eye or something.
I can't.
I have look at him, but yeah.
I want to say it really quick.
Also, off topic, but not off topic.
We're streaming live, by the way, only right now, unfortunately, just on YouTube and Twitch.
And we have some people in the chat.
Healing laughter power has joined us.
He said, it's great to see this thing that you were talking about, come to be.
And I said, yes, well, this is, and this is the first time we're going live with it.
So thank you for that.
And thank you for all the love on Instagram, obviously.
We'll edit in. post.
There'll be a lot of beeps when we say your name.
Unmasked, though.
Yeah, this is like when the.
It was me, Austin.
It was me all along.
It.
Remember, remember, here's a pop culture moment.
I don't think enough people talk about.
Remember the Masked Magician show?
Yeah. on Fox?
Remember the Masked Magician?
It was a show on Fox.
Oh, yeah. masked magician goes around,
shows you all the secrets to all the big magic tricks.
And then at the very end, he takes off his mask
He's like, it is me, so- and so.
And I'm like, oh, I don't know who you are because I'm only like 12 years old, but that's cool.
I'm fact checking you.
He never revealed himself until this, you ended.
Well, that's what I meant.
Oh, right.
I didn't it it off the episode?
Not after
It was on the last episode, he takes off the mask and he's like, it is me.
And I'm like, who are you?
But was it was it was Vince McMahon.
It was me.
It was me!
It's me all alone.
He's.
He's, it was me.
Vince McMahon is.
Vince McMahon's secretary of the interior right now, so he's busy with that job.
No, I'm kidding.
But his wife isn't in charge of the Department of Education,
Which makes sense, right, Alex?
Because, like, what's more educational than wrestling?
That' what makes sense.
So many young
men have been educated by wrestling, so no, I don't know.
I' Med.
I'm talking nonsense.
Yeah, don't listen to me.
But anyway, going back to Darji Ling Limited, I
really I have to say, what I really liked about this movie to start off
I wanted to be in the movie.
I wanted to be on those sets.
I wanted to to have some sweet line.
Wes Anderson has a knack for building these worlds
that are very grounded in reality, but also not.
Like, it's almost like being in a real life dollhouse
where people are serving you green tea and soup
and papusas, maybe if this took place in Latin America, I don't know.
But that's the beauty of Wes Anderson's movies.
This one feels the most grounded of all outside of like Rushmore.
But what did you guys think about just the overall set design and production design in this movie?
Justin, you been a little quiet.
Go ahead.
You tell us about that.
How do you feel
about the Wes Anderson aesthetic?
I fucking hate it.
I hate Wes Anderson.
I hate Wes Sanderson movies.
They're terrible.
Get out of.
No, I'm I'm just joking.
No, no, no.
Honestly, I would say, I'm not even going to lie.
I think this was actually kind of one of my least favorite Wes Anderson movies.
Interesting.
It was very well made.
It was very beautiful, very pestel
very high contrast.
But, no, I, I mean, I get it.
It was a relatively simple plot line
about some brothers, which at the beginning, again,
I've never seen this movie before, but at the beginning,
you kind of establish over time that these
are brothers, obviously, and they're on a trip to kind of like,
uh, uh, you know,
how do I say they were reliving,
not reliving, but they were.. on a spiritual jour on
a spiritual journey for their father or together with their father.
To honor his death...
That's.
So it was an interesting journey.
Honestly
I kind of wish that they kind
of remained on that train a little
bit longer throughout the movie.
Although I thought I did find it kind
of funny that the, what was the ble what was the train's name?
The ble something
The Darzing Limited.
No, no, no.
The The last train they got on was
like the Benle Pacer or something like that.
Um, I actually like that transition because they're
like, um was it their mother that they visited,
was saying, oh, that's a, that's a tiger.
And then it ended up being like
the train at the end that they got on was a
bangle, but it was named after a ble.
And I thought that was pretty cool and interesting, but I
kind of wish like the entire trip like remained on the train.
It felt kind of dis jointed for
me when they stepped off the train or got kicked off the train
And I wish
that they kind of did a little bit more in that that sense.
But it was a beautiful movie.
I wish the comedy was a little bit better.
Maybe, I don't know, maybe I was in a mood
where I wasn't like entirely like focused on this movie, but
the moments that were funny were pretty funny.
Other than that, it was like, oh, I don't know.
It was a little bit of a little of a miss for me as far as the list Les Anderson sent is.
I really think my favorite movie is like the Grand Budapest
Hotel and the Fantastic Fox.
I'm already like, yeah, like way up there on that.
So let me ask you really quick, because
last week, this past weekend, I was testing out the live, which worked, by the way.
No.
And I mentioned that we were going to talk about this movie.
And somebody, I shared that clip.
I shared the clip.
I'm doing the Donald Trump hands.
What the fuck's wrong with me?
I shared the clip of me talking about us talking about this movie
where I said that Wes Anderson has now become so Wes Anderson like like it hurts.
And somebody on TikTok took that very negatively negatively, which I guess makes sense.
But I wasn't saying that in a disparaging way.
I was just saying that his style has become more pronouncedced
now now that he's developed it more
Whereas back then, when this movie came out, it was less pronounced.
So this movie felt more grounded to me than,
say, Grant Budap, which I love, by the way.
I love that movie.
But it's more dollhousey than this one.
So would you agree with someone like that who said, like, oh, well, you just don't like what's that?
Like, do you you prefer Wes Anderson style now or back then?
I guess it really what I'm asking you.
I prefer I prefer Wes Anderson now.
I haven't that's.
I haven't seen Atomic City yet, but I also, it's like.
City, you could say the same.
Asteroid, sorry, sorry.
You could say the same for
like Michael Bay movies.
Like, does Michael Bay, like, has Michael Bay become Michael Bay?
It's like, Michael Bay was great.
Of course he's Michael Bay.
Of course you can recognize his film style.
Of course you can recognize.
You know, and then I sometimes I think like, it's not necessarily a bad thing
but I think like once you develop into your
own kind of thing, you know, there's there is a level
of expectation, which also I
feel like, and this isn't an attack on Wes Anderson, but I
feel like when that expectation
is already met, I
feel now you have to reach Wes Anderson
now has to reach another level because we are already, I
mean, I go into all these movies knowing like, oh, this is a Wes Anderson movie.
I am I love his movies, but what
else am I going to be getting from this?
Besides, it's a Wes Anderson looking movie.
I think I get where you're saying.
You prefer now that he's developed his signature style.
You prefer
style now..
It is absolutely developed.
That's a totally overdeveloped.
It's fair point.
And going back to Michael Bay really quick, Armageddon,
the first Transformers and The Rock were fantastic movies.
Those are great action movies, you know?
But, you know, he still, I don't think he's done
I don't know, as good a movie since.
But quick point of order.
Justin, you said a mouthful for Arnold, obviously.
Sure.
I'm going to go with Alex.
Alex, you were disagreeing about Justin's point about what this movie is about.
I' disagreeing about both, like a lot of your guys's points.
Well, tell us, let's get into it.
I feel that.
I feel that this film is very emotionally complex.
There's a lot of metaphor in this.
So, and like, I get that you
would prefer that it had stayed on
the train.
However, the train was a metaphor for,
and it was part of a metaphor for that whole journey.
Getting kicked off of the train meant like them
having to face their trauma, whether or not it was
they were going to find a solution.
Because if you if you remember, they get kicked off the train and
that's when they all start being like, well, you know, I'm sorry.
They started apologizing to each other, right?
And they started apologizing for the things that, you know, they did to each other.
And then they almost just go back home
and just give up.
Because what happened was this wasn't a journey to honor their father at all all.
Because they hadn't spoken to each other for a year, as you recall.
The brother,
Francis, Luke Wilson, right?
Am I saying that?
Oh,wen?
No, Owen Owen Owen.
Owen.
Owen.
Owen's like that.
We I don't know why we get that wrong.
Go ahead.
Anyways,
Owen Wilson, he's the one that organizes this trip, right?
He's the one that kind of
like, like, I don't want to say bamboozled his brothers into going.
Oh, yeah, he bamboozled.
Yeah.
You orders for them?
He kind of tricked them in doing this
journey to like to reconnect.
But really, like, I wrote it down in my notes.
Let me take a look.
So he had these like intentions of
reconnecting because he himself had
become lost.
And he felt like very disconnected.
And the reason why he he
says that he just got an in a motorcycle accident, but in
reality, at the end of the movie, near the end of the movie, he reveals that he tried to kill himself
He reveals that he got those
injuries because he didn't want to be alone anymore.
So he died, but he came up with this whole thing to
try to reconnect with his brothers and tried to help each other out.
And that's why he was like, always like trying to get them to like almost force
trust into them.
He's like, that's why he was always creating these agreements.
Can we agree to do this?
Can we agree?
Can we make?
You know, Throughout the whole film, he was trying to
make these agreements, forcing his brothers to kind of create this
like false bond.
And you realize, like when they go see their
mother, she does the same stuff too.
But she was running her whole thing was they're
experiencing, they've experienced abandonment their whole life, all three brothers.
from their mom.
And the one person that stuck around was their dad
and yet now they feel abandoned
by their father. because he's gone now.
Right?
Did you notice the one person who was around for them is gone now.
The one person that should be around
just runs away every time, like every chance she gets she gets, you know?
That was the mom's way of like, like, that was like her way of healing, right?
Or handling grief.
No, she was just just holding it.
Like she was this, it was complete avoidance on her.
Hi, my buddy Jordan's in the chat now.
Jordan's a good friend of mine out here in Denver.
He's a multi-talented.
He's a writer.
He's a filmmaker, he's an editor.
He's a graphic designer.
He knows how to make 3D graphics.
We should have him do some 3D graphics of us for something on.
No, that'll take.
Well, Jordan, everybody who's
watching live, we've hit the 33 minute mark now, almost 34 minutes.
Usually about every half hour, that's when we give ourselves a little bit of a break..
And then so if you all want to join me, let' let's loosen our hips
does this.
Here we go.
All right.
Arnold started doing this the last show.
Who's doing it?
No?
I like, He's just doing some streting.
It's so much better.
It's good for your hips.
I'm wearing my Star Wars.
This is the only nerd shirt I have, by the way.
Here, I'll stand up just because Arnold.
I'm not going to dance, though.
I There it is.
Oh, you can't see me.
You blocked this that way to.
Grou Mandalorian.
It blocks the swivel of the hips.
Good job swiveling the hips.
Adrian.
Jordan wants to, yeah.
Jordan hasn't seen Back to the Future, so he wants to
he wants to be on the show.'s talk about Back to the Future.
He'rious He has not seen's it back to the future.
Is that what Jamie Fox?
I mean, what's his name?
Michael J.
Fox.
Michael J.
Fox.
Yeah.
Well, Jordan hasn't seen Back to the Future,
but he is open to being on.
If you discuss that, that movie, because
you know, Jordan loves movies, like we do.
But, you know, again, it's that whole, it's the title of the show.
You, how have you not seen that movie?
How have you not seen, you know, a Flash Dance or, I don't know..
What's another one that's Neither have I, but you know what I mean?
It's these popular movies.
Like, how have you not seen Goodfellas?
Like, I can't imagine if you haven't seen Goodfellas.
That movie is so
good.
Fellas.
And it's in the title.
Fas.
Yeah, yeah.
Obvious jokes.
It should be.
You know what?
The jokes write themselves on this show, ladies and gentlemen.
We don't need writers.
It should be called.
So good, fellas.
So good.
The White Jamie Fox.
Yeah, Michael J.
Fox is the white Jamie Fox.
Well, let's see.
I guess that's why it's good to be live because we can have these little s tangents.
Yeah.
But yeah, Back to the Future.
Goodfellas, Flash Dance.
What's the one.
What's the one where John Travolta is in high school, supposedly?
And it's like a musical.
Oh, Greece?
Grease Greece.
Is it?
Or greasy?
I've never seen like Grease or greasy.
Have you seen that?
You ever seen Greece?
No.
Have you seen part two?
Extra Greasy.
Grease, Port two, the Greasy.
The Gre.
Grease part 2.
How are you doing, Justin?
Electric boogaloo.
There was a 13 minute short film called
Hotel Chevalier that startedred Jason Schartzman and Natalie Portman
that was made around the same time they were making this movie.
She flew out to India to do that.
It was released separately and
then shown to her as a prelude to Darjeing.
Did anyone here watch that at all?
I've seen it.
Okay, I feel like I heard of it.
There was some of I seen it once, though.
I've only seen it once and I could barely remember it.
Remember Alex, I called you last night because the DVD that you gave me had like some version with
Hotel Chevalier, and I had no idea what that.
That's the one.
Yeah..
That's why I recommended him to not watch it because it
would probably throw off the conversation.
Yeah.
Like, I'd much rather
have an understanding of like the basic
movie that we're all trying to watch for the show.
Right, right.
That's why I recommended the
I don't want to overwhelm you. like, wait a minute.
That wasn't the beginning of the movie.
Hey, maybe when I re-watched it.
Because I had the DVD, so
Some quick fun facts.
I love that.
They insisted on shooting on
a real moving train, got permission to film on on live tracks.
The production refurbished a train that they shot in, and they shot
on active streets and trains that created
unpredictability that the crew embraced.
I think that's interesting
It feels like those street scenes
where you have all those crowd shots and the background and whatnot, those felt
authentic to me, even if they usually could have been just paid extras, right?
It felt real.
So I really appreciate that aspect of it.
Now, Alex, since you're the music man, the music, man, the music, man, right?
The soundtrack
as the kinks.
Nu Fireman Strangers, The T Tomorrow, The Rolling Stones.
What was your favorite track?
from this?
The King's one.
Like when they're exiting the
the hut house or whatever to
go follow the funeral procession?
This time, tomorrow, this time tomorrow.
Is it?
I think, no, that's not it.
That's not.
What was the song towards the end?
It was It was the song that that they're walking to
to get to the little tuck-tuck.
That was a song.
There was a song towards the end.
Right before they bored the train for the last time.
They're like, all right, fellas, ready?
And then they're like, yeah.
And then you hear the music go
And I'm like, oh, that sounds like a like a, like, like a train, basically.
Yeah, but it's.
And then the actual music kicks in.
Yeah, and I was like like, that's that's so clever.
It's just like such a little tiny detail like that.
Well, you know, here's, okay, here's something that like as
far as like character development and like
something that tells the very telling of Wes Anderson as a person.
And like his how he approaches film in regards to music.
So if you
watch Jason Sportsman's
character, Jack, he's throughout the movie,
he has that iPod doc with the iPod and he's like always
trying to set the mood with music, right?
And
it's almost as if he's trying to create
a narrative regardless of whatever is going on.
He wants to like, you know, set the mood for
when like, say Sweet Lime arrives or set the mood, you know
for even when they're going to bed, you know?
And that's somebodybody pointed that out
in, in a discussion video that I watched that,
you know, that's kind of similar to like how Wes Anderson
approaches his films.
So he's creating these stories and music is a
very poignant important part
of his filmmaking process.
So
not to say that he he outlines
all his films, all his writing to the music,
but it does feel like he has
certain songs that he he wants, specific
songs that he wants to play at certain times.
And like, for instance, in his other
film, Life Aquatic, right?
There's.
Love that movie.
The scene when they're burying Bill Murray.
Oh, no, not Bill Murray.
Sorry.
Bill Murray, they're burying
The old guy?
The Luke Wilson?
Luke Wilson?
Owen.
Owen Wilson The brother?
Owen Wilson's also on that one, yeah.
Wait, he doesn't.
Does he't, Owen Wilson.
Yeah, Owen Wilson.
Owen Wilson.
Yeah, no, he dies.
Owen.
He dies.
Wait, does he
B. I've seen that movie so many times.
Go ahead, go.
Yeah.
So And then there's that song from the zombies.
It's a.
If I try da
da
What?
I can't remember the lyrics.
What do you have to?
No, you got gold c.
That one?
No.
No?
Oh.
That's a.
That's the cranberries.
Yeah.
But yeah, it's a song from the zombies.
It's like very
like specific.
And every time I hear that song, I think about that movie.
And whenever I think whenever I see that scene, I instantly already go
to like that song, even before it plays.
You know?
And so it's that's kind of like what he does.
And that's like the same thing that the like Jason
Schartman's character in Darjeeling Limited.
It's kind of like a thing that he's like
you know, trying to create these narratives that
that character is trying to create this narrative and set
the mood, even though he's like not like that's something that he's in control of.
I like how he had that old school
iPod docking station.
Yeah.
Very old school.
I still have my..
So, I know who my
favorite brother is, but I want to ask you guys, between Adrian and Brody
Jason Schwartzman and Owen Wilson, who is your guys' favorite brother?
of the three?
And Donnie, I want to start with you.
Who's your favorite brother of the three brothers?
I guess that would be like
if I saw myself as one of the three brothers, which which one one would I be?
Because they both, they all cope with their
with their, you know, with their problems differently.
I'd probably be like, like Adrian.
So like Peter, that's more like mental.
He's like, he's like trying to cope with it in his head and he goes through a lot of mental.
So that's why that's why he keeps seeing that reoccurring theme where like he's
using his dad's stuff and just just kind of taking it
That would be probably the way I would act.
I like the pettiness of Owen Wilson.
Is that Dad's belt?
Is that my belt?
Is that dad's shape?
He should ask before you take.
But then he goes and takes their passport without asking them, right?
So he does the same exact thing.
Well, you know what's cool about that whole
thing, that whole taking the passport?
And at the very end, uh
of the movie, like, Francis
offers to give back the passports to the brothers.
But the brothers
say, no, you can hang on hang on to him.
And that's just showing that a
sign of them being able to trust each other other again.
And that was one of the cool things.
That was one of the cool things what I enjoyed about this
film was like, and why it always was something,
such an important film to you and why I think it's one of my top three
Wes Anderson films.
Is it because of the Brotherly,
you know, the the commentary
on Brotherly, the sibling, you know.
The dynamics siblings and sibling dynamics, how they communicate brother.
And that's one of the things too, that I wanted to talk about.
I like they all have like their traumas
and how they're dealing with them.
And I I found in my notes.
And so Jack is the
one that runs away from his problems.
Like after his dad passed away, he ran
off to go with his girlfriend in Italy or wherever she was.
But he's constantly running away.
That's why he writes stories to kind of like
run away, like create these sort of like new
versions of what he had gone through, the traumas he had gone through.
Right.
Francis, you know, he organizes his bogus,
like spiritual journey, only to help him process his father's death
You know, but, you know, after unsuccessfully at
trying to end his own life, you know, he's So he's
like, his way of doing this is like, but, you know, nobody,
uh, wants to go, really go out along.
They're going along just because like, oh, let's see what Francis wants to do.
But, uh, you know, you know, Peter,
he's like the most angry of the, of the three brothers.
He's like every single response
you know, that's why like, he also like pilfers all their father's stuff.
You know, he's like, you know, like, they
were talking about the sunglasses, right?
The sunglasses in Royal Tenenbaums,
Richie wears the sungllasses right to hide from the world, right?
He wears those big gigantic sunglasses to hide from the world.
Whereas Peter in this film
he wears those big gigantic prescription sunglasses to
distort his view of the world.
You know?
And he he'd rather sit in that pain getting
headaches from the prescription the sunglasses.
Why is it like background noise?
It sounds like a.
Sounds like somebody's getting water.
Sorry, Molly's eating right now.
Sorry, Molly, you're always disturbing
whether you're hacking, eating, you're drinking water.
Hard are tichotomy.
I thought what it was.
What was throat?
Her throat.
Throat, sorry.
Yeah.
It sounded like throat has been a running theme lately.
Go ahead, though, Alex.
It sounded like there was a washing machine going on.
It's like a game of throats.
Yeah.
But yeah, that's that's one of the. those things that is..
Sorry.
Game of Thrones, that was good, Arnold.
That was good.
That was good.
I get what you're saying.
My favorite shows.
I like the
the Adrian Brody's character, sorry, Peter.
His anger is very relatable, but he's not my favorite brother.
My favorite brother, I would have to go with Jason Schwartzman.
I feel like I relate to him the most.
Going back to that question.
But
what I want to know is how, and what world
would two parents have three kids that look like Adrian Brody, Owen Wilson, and Jason?
I could see Adrian B.dy and Jason Schwartzman, but Owen Wilson is, blonde hair.
Oh, wait.
Apparently, Angelica Houston and Bill Murray
that they.
I was I was going to mention, didn't the mom,
she have a very similar nose to Owen Wilson?
That was one thing that stood out to me.
I was like, I could see that.
I was like, is that her natural nose?
Or did they make her nose to make it look like
oh, that's where Owen got it from. nose..
I think they picked actors with prominent noses.
All of them have like prominent noses.
That''s true.
If you look at it that way.
Except for Bill.
They do look different.
No, except for Bill Burray, yeah, yeah.
His nose is a bit more boldness.
The scene where they's going to be got real for me was the river
scene with the three kids and the one, spoiler alert
for a 20-year-old movie almost.
The one kid dies
and then they stay in the village and they go through the whole process
of the funeral and all that stuff.
Again, What did you guys make of that?
Because I was I was trying to think about like, what does this mean with this?'
s of the journey
of why they got like kicked off of the..
Because sometimes, like, on your journey,
you're not in control of what happens.
And so you, they, they just happened across that, that, that incident, right?
So like, have they stayed on that train
they would never had that ability
to go through that healing process, that traumatic experience
that they shared together.
Because a lot of times, sometimes, too, like traumatic experiences can bond people
together as well.
Yeah.
That's the first time in the movie where they're not thinking about themselves.
And you see a turning point.
They all come together and it's for grief, right?
And that's that's a reoccurring theme in Western Anderson's movies in general, right?
He talks a lot about like familial tragedies and griefs.
Yeah.
And that's what the whole thing too.
That whole, like
like the whole thing, they haven't watching other people grieve a death.
See, seeing the father prepare
the son for, like to be burned in the funeral pyre,
you know, watching the, the whole village
like mourn, they were wailing.
Like that's the whole thing And like, from what I hear, I think I'm, I
might, like, correct me if I'm wrong, but that's how,
um, in that world, they grieve.
Whenever there's some, like a death, like the whole village will be, like they call it like a wailing
you know, of like all the women will get together and just wail.
over the death of whoever
in their village.
They treat it like they're all family, right?
It's like there's their child.
Exactly.
And it's that sort of external thing that helps them heal.
And them being able to witness that
actually people like letting them feel
these emotions, I think that's the whole
thing about grief is a lot of times when we feel like grief and
loss, we we instantly just block ourselves off of
it or we try to like subdue it or sweepep it under the rug
Whereas if we actually let ourselves feel grief, we can actually get through it.
I think that's, you know, another one of the things that why I
think I watched it again after our dad died.
And it was one of those things where this
is why another reason why it's like another, like one of my favorite films is because
you know, experiencing that in
my life, you know, it's, I mean, Arnold and I, when
our father died, I think we obviously dealt with it different ways.
Me being in the home of
where my parents live in where the
last like residing place, it was just kind of
It was a bit overwhelming. at times.
And I think about it sometimes too.
I's like, I don't know.
Sometimes I'll wake up to like my door opening.
And I'm pretty sure it's my mom.
Like checking on me.
But it's just one of those things too.
Like in
my head, sometimes because it's dark.
And she usually doesn't turn on the she usually turns on the light and she's like going through the hallway by my door.
And
she like that like the last time it
happened, there was like no light from when the door opened and then just shut.
And it like kind of freaked me out.
And I was like, is that my dad checking in on me?
You know?
And that was, you know,
Pretty crazy.
It was one of those things where like, again, like the grieving process, it's.
You never fully.
Stop grieving.
And like it's I go I think back to that, like
what's his name from the Amazing Spider-Man, the second Spider-Man?
Not Tobey McGuire, but..
Andrew Garfield?
Andrew Garfield.
Andrew Garfield talked about.
Andrew Garfield grief being something that
you know, it's just unshared love.
And whenever you start to feel choked up, it's
just kind of like that whole thing where it's a, you
feel grateful to feel that, you know?
And it's like,
uh, like right now I'm getting choked up about it.
Like, it's because I love my dad, you know?
And, uh, yeah.
And I think that's one of those things where like that
whole village of grieving, letting it out is actually important.. to start the prorieving process
Listening to you talk about that reminds me of two things.
It reminds me of that scene in Midsom where
Florence Pugh's character starts like breaking down and all the women join
her and they start crying and being emotional with her.
And it's that sort of sense of community, right?
Like that you were saying
they're grieving along with her.
And that was so interesting.
And then it reminds me of that scene in Saving Private
Ryan, where Giovanni Rabisi's character tells the other guys when they're sleeping in the church.
He's like, yeah, sometimes like my mom would get home and I'd already be in bed
and she would peek through the door and I would pretend to be asleep.
And then she would like, close the door and that was it.
And he's like, I never know.
I think hes said like, I never know why I really did that.
But anyway, I thought that was just interesting.
It reminded me of hearing you talk about that, your dad and all that reminded me of those two scenes.
something about the quiet moments
that really stand out, especially in movies like this, like there's so keep it in my mic.
There's so many quiet moments that like really resonate, right?
Like when they're having breakfast.
Like the mom leaves, leaves them a note saying I'm'm gone or whatever.
Did they leave them a note?
I don't even know.
I thought she left a note or a message with somebody
And then they just, they have breakfast and it's kind of a quiet scene.
And it's like, are they just all collectively thinking about their mom and
just the fact that she's like this absentee parent?
What about the scene?
I think, before that, wasn't the mom in it where
I think um they just sat there and then they just all
like looked at each other, but it was like no words.
Yeah.
Was that like the knife before?
before, yeah, the scene I'm talking about happened after the scene you're talking about.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was the mom that.
She was like, why don't we try expressing ourselves without words or something like that?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
That was when it came up, that montage that I referred
to earlier, where they're all thinking about their respective
partners or persons.
But who was the guy in the book with the books?
It wasn't Bill Murray.
There was another old guy. who was like, you have like books behind him or something.
I don't know who that is.
I still don't know who that is.
Does Do you guys remember what I about?
Oh, no.
Yeah, Didn't he play the
the guy that helps, what's his name in
in Royal Tenenbaumbs when he helped?
He us a lot of the same characters or same characters.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But who was the character?
Okay, I remember now he was remember when they went in the train
car there eating dinner and there's the three of them, but then there was this fourth guy that was sitting next to.
Just at the table.
Yeah, that popped out of nowhere?
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Was that the same guy in the montage?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, okay.
That was the one where.
I wonder if that's like symbolic.
But it might be like symbolic for something.
I don't know.
Was that that was where Owen Wilson was like, how
about 101's hot fish and one of you had chicken?
You want to have beef, right?
Okay, yeah, you're going to have that.
We're all going to have soup, right?
Okay.
I like how he was micraging like everything at the beginning.
He's, okay, here's the plan.
You're going to do this.
Just like his mom, though, right?
Exactly.
I loved at the end where he's like, okay, you're going to go over here, then we're going to meet up here.
And then they all go, they all take turns using the phone and he's like, who's he talking about?
He's probably talking to, well, who's he talking about?
He's probably talking to, well, who's he talking?
I's like, this movie is like so, it's so like Seinfeld coded sometimes.
Yeah.
And he was like, I thought we agreed, I thought we agreed not to
like let him call his ex-girlfriend's
answer.swering machine.
That's right.
Let's make another agreement.
Let's have an agreement.
Let's have an agreement.
Yes, have an agreement.
Lots of agreements.
Lots of agreements.
I wanted to talk about really quick because Justin had mentioned earlier about,
you mentioned about how some parts felt disjointed to me.
The only thing that felt disjointed to me and out of place was
the scene where they're in, I forget what city where
their dad is, and they go get the car and all that.
Oh, New York.
I don't know how I feel.
I love that transition.
I love that transition.
Tell me why.
Okay.
So, they're getting in the
They're doing that..
What did you call it?
Donald?
The The panning scene?
Oh, the lateral. lateral?
Lateral movement?
Yeah, the lateral pan. theateral pan. like walking towards.
No, he didn't know Arnold.
But so
ll I'm towards the tuckuck.
No, you didn't.
Liar.
Anyways, yeah.
Keep going.
Yeah, I will.
They get into the back of the tuck, right?
And then they're all sitting in
the same positions that they were the year before. during the funeral.
Like or when they were about to go to the funeral.
In the back of that car.
So I thought that was a genius way of
doing a flashback.
You know what I mean mean?
Because I think, I think a lot of times people can, when they do
flashback, it becomes too heavy-handed or they do do like a flash, they
do a fade in or fade out and then a fade in.
Whereas like they're
that they're at a funeral.
They're heading to a funeral in that tuck-tuck, right?
In that a year prior, they're headed to a funeral with their dad's funeral.
So it's just kind of a juxtosition
of the present where they're at going to
this kid's funeral and then they go, then
they go, they flash quickly over.
They, they quick cut to them sitting in the back of that
car, headed to their dad's funeral.
Yeah, like that.
And that recontextualizes all that for me because I thought the funeral
took place after India, but then I remembered, oh, that's
why Owen Wilson doesn't have his face bandage.
It was That was a flashback.
Oh, Schw.
Yeah.
Man.
And that was I didn't catch that.
What?
Adrian.
Even I knew that.
I know
And we hosted movies podcasts.
Go ahead, Alex.
Sorry.
And it's funny, too, because like they they get to a,
I can't remember the scene when they cut back from that flashback
to the present-day funeral at the for the kid.
They're all also standing in the same place and they
have their one of them has their arm over the other one of the other brothers.
They're all in the same
placeacement, the same blocking.
And so it flashes back.
And it's almost like you see how far.
It was important to show that to show how far they'd come
in their healing journey, you know?
Because if you think about it, like they, it was it
was also good to see like as a comparison of
them hous solid they were as brothers.
Because if you remember when they were trying to get the car
they were pulling out of the garage and
then they had that incident with that truck, the tow truck driver, right?
And they was like, they're all, get back in the car.
And they all like kind of were all bonded in that one moment.
And they were like, they were all like, don't mess with us.
All three of them.
And they were all like, like one.
They're like one unit, like unit
Yeah.
Exactly.
Like, Trey Parker and Matt Stone right there rappers.
And anyway,ways.
The best rappers.
So, and then when they get, when
you get back to that, now you see them as a solid unit as brothers again.
You know, when they get back, they flash back to the prisonday funeral.
That makes so much more sense.
Because for some reason, I thought,
I thought that the car garage scene was into the future, not the past.
No.
Now that I recontextualizes.
And that's why they found, they found that remember they found their
dad's luggage in the backseat over the trunk.
Yeah..
They're like, oh, there's another piece.
Yeah, I was wondering, yeah, okay.
That makes, I see, duh.
I don't know how I miss this stuff, right?
And I call myself a writer.
Just for fun.
Arnold and Alex, you guys have a third brother, Donald.
Donnie.
Donnie Calagal.
God damn it, I'll get it one day.
Between the three of you, between the three of you, who is Peter?
Who is Francis, and who is Jack?
Alex, I'll let you.
Actually, no, Arnold, you answer the question.
Who do you see yourself as in that dynamic?
When you first asked that question, or like, who is your favorite character?
I started thinking about
for me, I like who I, who I related myself to.
And just from like height-wise, I'm Jack.
And so, uh..
No.
Okay.
And so if Donnie be Francis?
What's that?
Does your brother, Donnie, did he ever micromanage you guys?
Did he ever try to get you to form PAX some stuff?
Or would he be the Owen Wilson character?
Yeah, in this?
No, I think that's.
That's right.
I think I'm the angry one.
I think I'm Peter.
I think you're, yeah.
No, no.
And I'll say that disparaging, Alex.
You know, I love you, but, you are very Peter-coded.
Yeah, I am.
And I think Donnie is, is Francis.
Ohwen Wilson?
Yeah, I would agree.
Owen Wilson's character is.
Because height-wise, because Donnie is taller than you, right, Alex?
So then Donnie would then would be, would be Peter.
Um, but.
Well, yeah, but we're not talking about height wise.
We're talking.
Yeah, because I'm just a very superficial person.
That's why.
You know, I lack very, very much depth.
And so, um, that's that's why my reviews.
You're not the only one.
My reviews are so like dull.
You ask me?
Yeah, it it was really good.
You got depth mentally and physically.
What?
No, no, no, no.
I like your.
I'm kidding I'm kid, Arld.
Actually, I didn't hear you
Anyways person, Arld.
Huh?
Is mess with you?
I love you.
I love you, Arnold.
This is This is good stuff right here.
This is good stuff.
This is what the four people who are watching this stream Tune in for, right?
This is the kind of..
Hey, did you guys know that their roommates previously
in college college, Wilson and Anderson
chased like that?
I read about that.
Oh, yeah.
I read about that too.
I didn't know that, but I was like, oh, it makes a lot of sense.
I knew that.
Yeah.
You did know that.
Arnold knows everything.
I mean, that's why they made the Bott Rocket.
I was about to say that, yeah.
Yeah.
I think that's the last Wes Anderson movie I need to see to be able to say I've seen all of his movies.
Oh, By the way, I've all of them.
Yeah, Wes Anderson is a true.
I haven't seen Brother director, right?
And here's the thing.
Fantastic Mr. Fox and Island of Dogs are two great movies.
Like, if he just did an animated movies,
I would be totally okay with that because he's so good at it.
I've never seen any of his animated movies.
Oh, you should watch watch watch Isle of Dogs first.
Is Dog.
It's good. but Fantastic Mr. Fox is better.
So watch Isle of Dogs first and then Fantastic Mr. Fox.
Okay.
I don't know why I's never like appealed to me.
I was like, I don't.
I know.
It's weird, right?
Because they're
I think they're stop motion or claymation or whatever.
Yeah, they c.
But they're really good.
No, no, I think you're like I love Fox of dogs.
I love dogs.
I love I. Well, all dogs go
to heaven is another, you know, Airbud 2
Yeah, yeah, are good.
Land Bore Time.
Good dog movies.
Yeah.
Oh, no, man.
I thought it was talking about dog movies.
Like Beethoven. just random movies.
Sorry.
M's, which I believe that Owen Wilson.
Oh, man.
Have you seen that awesome Arnold?
Have you seen that awesome Wes Anderson film Karate Kid Part 3?
That one, yeah.
No, no.
Alex, it was Karate Kid Squared or Kate.
Oh, okay.
Got it.
Kind of like Alien 3, Alien.
Never mind.
It doesn't matter.
That one actually didn't see.
Maybe, maybe to
do another Wes Anderson movie, we should.
What do you guys think?
I am always full of Anderson movies.
Hey, you know, what would be a good good coupleimentary film
to this is the Royal Tenbaum.
There's a lot of scenes.
I didn't catch this the first time I watched it, but now as I rewatched
it, I recall a lot of scenes that look just like the Royal Tenbaum.
The bathroom one in particular stands out to me.
But I know there's other ones
There's There's another film that I was going to
recommend to as a complimentary film, and it's not a Wes Andersonenderson film.
What's that?
It's a more recent film, his Three Daughters.
That was a really good one.m It's about,
you know, it's about like three sisters That's are.
No, no.
No, it's not a Westerson film.
It's not.
It would be a great.
It's about the sibling, rivalry,
how they communicate, like the different personalities, and how they all relate to their father.
Are they hot?
You know.
What's that that?
They're all easy on the eyes, yes, Arnold.
Yes, they are.
London didn't say anything.
Yeah.
Good stuff, guys.
I feel like.
Go ahead, go ahead.
It's a good one to watch.
No, it's a good.
I was just saying it's a good one to watch.
We need to We need to start.
This is what we got to do is start a letterboxed list.
You know what I mean?
Movies to watch.
Jordan Chad says Phoician scheme.
I have not seen Phoician scheme yet.
Finish the scheme.
Phoician Scheme by Wes Anderson.
I had free tickets to it and I missed it.
I saw French Dispatch.
I liked it.
I didn't really like
Asteroid City.
What was the movie called?
Fishing Kings?
No.
The Phoenic.
Phoenicians King.
Phenician kinks.
Fishian kinks.
The kinks also do the soundtrack to there.
But I think we' reached that time,
fellows, I think it's it's about that time where we do our final thoughts
and the working people find us and all that good
stuff because we're we went a little along on the tooth because, you know,
technical issues and all that, and that's fine.
Yeah, that's fine.
Well, now we're at another 30 minute block, so don't mind me.
You know, the nice thing about Riverside is that it cuts out all the...
Here we go.
We got to stop for this, unfortunately.
Oh, wow.
Look at you, Art.
I think we're going to have to blur this, Arnold, if I'm being honest with you.
Okay, Arnold, we might get kicked off of YouTube for this.
I think that's why we got we got pre-bandanned from TikTok
and Facebook because if they knew you were going to do that dance.
Yeah, give work our.
We're a lot.
It's for our health.
We're sitting too long.
It's It's as a culture, we sit too long
And it's.
You're not wrong about.
It's, you know, you got to stand up at least.
Yeah.
No, you're not wrong about.
I'm not wrong about.
I'm standing up to the fact that you keep doing this and they're going to get kicked off of YouTube.
Well, then you just stand up.
You don't have to sw your hips.
Jordan says.
My eyes, Jordan says in the chat.
And you got seven viewers.
Okay, right when we're about to wrap up, we got seven viewers right at the end.
That's okay, though.
Yeah, we're going to wrap up.
We're going to do our final thoughts.
Justin, let's start with you.
How you looking, how you sound and how you feeling, man?
What's the vibe like?
I don't know why I'm saying any of that.
Go ahead.
I didn't get to say anything this episode.
So I'm sorry.
I'm my review.
By all means.
I honestly think this is my least favorite Wes Anderson movie.
I understand all your guys' points with the film
but that doesn't take away that I just had a hard
time watching it and keeping up with it.
I probably won't go back watching this movie again.
And
you know, know, as much as I understand the
the plot points, the theing and everything, it is a very beautiful, welld movie.
Quite frankly, out of everything, I think Jason Schwarzman's stole the show.
I think he's the best character in this movie
I think he
deserves the limelight for this film, for sure, because he held it on his back..
But other than that, like, it's
a typical Wes Anderson movie, although
it does show that he hasn't really perfected his craft just yet.
Although it's there, you can see it starting
to be a Wes Anderson, you know, stylized,
very pastel type of movie.
But other than that, yeah, I just didn't enjoy
it as much as I've enjoyed his other films.
And I would much rather go watch
other Wes Anderson movies, like Life Aquatic
and and Grand Budapest, Mr. Fox, and all the rest.
But I haven't seen that newest one that he came out with yet.
So I still look for it on, well, I still plan on watching that one.
But other than that, I really don't have much else to say about this movie
So I'm going to give it a respective two
and a half out of five on Letterboxd.
You can follow me, Ghost Nerd 88, or
you can follow my personal profile if you want, which
is still Shibs a Zombie.
Other than that, that's it.
Swamp leaches.
Everyone, check for swamp leleaches.
I'm the only one?
What's the deal?
I love that part for Life Aquatic.
Bill Murray is so good.
You're right, Don.
He is the best actor ever.
I don't care what anybody says.
Bill Murray is great.
That movie, everything he touches, you know?
and figuratively speaking, of course.
Thank you for that.
Justin, I appreciate that.
And actually, Donnie, since I'm talking to you, you
tell us what are your final thoughts on Dar Yeling Limited?
Yeah, this isn't my favorite film that
he did, but it definitely resonated with me, again, probably
because of the time that I discovered it.
And I started
I guess, recognizing, his unique signature for movies, right?
And so for me, it was, it was, it holds a special place for me, I guess.
So I give it a four.
I like it.
I've watched it twice.
This is only the second time I've watched it, but I would watch it again.
I would recommend it.
And yeah, that's it. underscore Donnie Appleseed on Instagram.
If you want to follow my photography, it's 125 photography, also on Instagram.
And in my letterbox is Donnie Eiffeled.
No underscring in the beginning.
That's it.
Nice.
Thank you for that, Donnie.
All right.
There's some wild comments going on in the chat that I won't
say on the show, but it's some funny stuff.
Healing laughter power.
You are a funny guy guy, even if I don't know what you're talking about, but that's okay.
Alex, yeah, let's go to you next.
What are your final thoughts?
And where can people find you?
I this is,
like I said, one of the out of the top three.
I'd say between actually top five, it would probably land
two or three.
Oh, for me.
My top Wes
Anderson film is Life Aquatic.
That's another one that's kind of like deals with grief
and loss and everything like that.
But I think it's kind of one of those things where
I think with
this with Darjeeling
Limited, it's the most grounded work of his.
It's the most.
I would say.
It's feels the most human.
The character characters
in there are very relatable to.
When I first watched this film, I
was dealing with my own loss of like as
a relationship and kind of like going back and kind of
trying to see how it related
to my relationship with my family, you know, and
how that kind of affected my own relationships in my personal life.
But as I got older,
I saw, and obviously with
the passing of our father, I got to understand
it better as far as a peace regarding grief and loss
and how the
importance of our relationships with our
family are that, you know, we still have.
You know, I know we have that there's certain people
who do have kind of these broken relationships
and they're trying to, I don't know if they're trying
to, but they've had in the past, like tried to mend
fences and it's not something.
And that's kind of part of it too.
The whole idea of trying to resolve that
thing with their mother.
It's very relatable in the sense of
like people who have tried to work things out with people that they
haven't had the best relationships with and how
they've decided to be able to move forward
because they tried, you know, they tried and's,
and you don't have to stop trying, but at the same time, you're don't have to revolve your life around it.
Um, But at the same time,
you know the relationships that do matter.
And the matters that the relationships that do matter are the ones that you know you could trust.
Like you No, relationships with your friends, your brothers,
your siblings.
And that's what you know I look at it now and,
you know, with, you
know, my relationships with my own brothers, I
You know, it's funny.
Like I, you know, my mom, I know she's been having
a difficult time with the passing of her dad.
And she still does.
Even though she doesn't talk about it, I know she does.
And that kind of
translates into that sort of distance sometimes.
And it's hard to like, you
know, get her back down.
Sometimes you you just kind of have to let her run that course.
But at the same time, you, you know,
you try to stay with them and
create those connections.
And Sometimes like even
with your just having your brothers around to
be a part of that kind of helps with
that difficulty of them
struggling, you know, because that
kind of ends up in your lap as well.
So that's kind of, again, the importance
of brotherly of sibling communication.
And I think that's why it's means so much to me, this film.
And the
symbolism of this whole journey
that they go on and how like you
can't control the journey.
And you can't also just
want to stay on board that same journey.
Sometimes you just got like, okay, well, I got I got kicked off.
Let's let's do this.
I, you know, and sometimes
I feel like me getting kicked off my journey was getting divorced
or, you know, like, like relation's not working out
or whatever, you know, and that's kind of, I can't, that's beyond my control
but you just, just go with it.
And again, my brothers and my friends were there
for me and they helped me along and, you know, other family members as well.
So
yeah, I really love this movie again.
I rate this a four stars out of five on Letterbox.
And you can find me on social media at Daily Dares.
Oh, thank you for for my Dop collectible Galaxy.
Yes, sir.
Well, thank you for sharing that, Alex.
Seriously.
I know, I know it's, you don't always have a chance to talk about this stuff openly, right?
So I think it's good that this can be a good platform to be open about that sort of thing, right?
So, I'm sure a lot of people can relate to that, right?
The loss through death, divorce, what have you?
So this is a good, this is a good safe space to talk about those things.
So, I do appreciate that.
And, uh, Thank you.
And yeah.
Um, thank you for that.
And, uh, all right, Arnold.
Well, we're going to end with you, Arnold, as we always do.
And
obviously, give us your, give us your,
your raw thoughts, final thoughts, and then you know what comes after that.
But I'll let you go ahead.
So Alex, I remember a while back,
you had mentioned like, oh, you had mentioned this movie and
that, and I and I think you had mentioned something about like
you know, because it was like three three brothers and I and I,
and you know, I could kind
of see, get like all the mot There's got to be something to it that relates like, oh, three brothers.
Hey, we're like us
One, two, three, me, we're three brothers too.
You know?
So, um
and I know your style of movies and that, you know, there's a lot of
really depth of meaning of things.
And I'm glad that you guys all
get to talk about it and I got to listen and learn
like all the different symbolism of things and everything.
But, oh, uh, but
back to Justin, uh we mentioned about Jack,
how not only did he really carry a lot of the
um the movie, the stuff,
the weight in the movie, but hey man, he was he was the one guy.
The emotional burden?
He was the one who scored, right?
What's her name?
Priya or something?
Oh, she is beautiful.
Rita.
Oh, Rita.
Priya is somebody else.
Never mind.
Oh, I know that reference.
No, no.
I heard it wrong.
Rita.
Her name is Rita.
Rita, Rita Rita.
Because my former boss's name was Rita.
I don't Andrew Klay.
I don't know.
We're going to cut all this.
Anywho.
I'm just getting Arnold.
I did think it was a really good movie.
Very entertaining.
I love the
I thought that was hilarious.
He's like he saw that cobra and he's like, how much do you want for that?
I'm like, what an idiot.
He's all carrying the box around.
The cobra has got the poison symbol on it.
And that was hilarious.
He's like, he wakes up and he's like, it's missing.
Like the box is empty.
I would be so scared.
I wouldn't even buy a cobra.
I hate snakes, man.
I' I'm fascinated
by them. any of you guys used to watch Crocodile
Hunter with Steve Irwin?
Going in.
Groy, we've got a spit.
We've got a spit and let me put the last. snake in the world.
She's a but.
She's a butte.
She's a beaut, yeah.
Yeah, all right.
And that was the first time I ever seen a mamba, but he caught
a green mamba, a very intelligent snake, but, you know, we all know that I'm
a fan of the Lakers and, you know, the black mamba,
Kobe, you know, So when I when they brought that out, I don't know how I got to that too.
Like, oh, it's because they had
a snake, a cobra in the movie.
You're going to edit this episode.
I. It's because of your brain.
It runs Even though I
had that those two papooses, one was a pork and the other was a jalaapeño and cheese.
Oh, I was like that big.
That was a big papooa.
I am really full.
Like, my stomach
You know, pa is nuts. shouts to
that shirt from Donald, who
made col baby shirt that I saw?
Oh, no, I thought It said bow of coles.
It's a traditional cabbage salad that goes along with it.
I hate cabbage.
Well, it's really delicious, especially if you toss it, you toss
the salad and you put it on top of the papusa, you know, like, especially the one with the cheese
The cheese papusa where he put
the tossed salad, you know, he spiced it up with a little
bit out of that hot sauce, which, you know, I still got a little
bit here to like, oh, if I tip it, you know, I
just had the hot sauce here to sip on.
So what were your final thoughts again on the movie?
Oh.
Jeez.
Oh, okay, yeah, so I got a little caught up with that.
I didn't.
I didn't really have any
I thought it was it was a really good movie.
High, uh Somewhat high.
High watchability, rewatchability.
Yeah.
And on my Letterbox, which
you can find me at Arnie Caliggo on Letterbox.
I'm Arnie Caliggo everywhere.
I'll give I' give this.
I think this is probably like the third or fourth, three and a half out of five
um rating of a movie That's not that I give it.
I feel like if it's anything other than,
I don't know, it didn't, it
was entertaining, but it didn't like get me like, like
fast in the V Race or something, you know, or like Home Alone.
did it need more explosions for you, Arnold?
I'd say so.
To wake you up, maybe?
I'd say so.
Oh, which is a good segue.
So, my Z rating.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, no, we got to introduce.
Oh, yeah.
This is my favorite part of the show.
This is a segment where we're calling Arnold Snoo
a meter., I'm going I' dub it in later.
All right, Arnold.
Tell us
Drum roll, please.
What is your snooze meter?
Why am I editing this line?
Go ahead and roll Wait, snoo meter.
So, I didn't fall asleep.
I called Alex around 916 last night
asking him which version should I watch?
It was the Hotel Chevalier or just the regular one.
So I started started there.
I didn't even look.
But then I got kind of like stoked when I was like stoked.
I got like, like,
I was like pretty cheed.
When I saw that, it was a 91 minute long movie.
So I was like, all right, I can do this.
All right.
And then, the
one part where we were talking about it were like, the
funeral, if funeral, when they were invited to the funeral, and then it cuts to
the past, Adrian.
Thanks for clarifying.
It was like that one little part where
all of a sudden, maybe it's because they're wearing black, all of a sudden I started to my eyes started to get heavy.
And then
my wife, she's like, do you fall asleep right there?
And I was like, uh, no, I didn't.
But I actually did for a little bit.
And I thought it was longer, but that it actually was.
But, you know, but it was like one of those like times that you doze and you're like,
what was it feel like?
It felt like it was 20 minutes, but then it was actually like 90 seconds.
And that's that's kind of actually like, what it was.
So um, but, but after I finished
the movie, I rewind it back to that part and rewatched it in it.
And then it actually made more sense
But I would give it I would give it a
quarter or
half a Z. Like somewhere in between there.
You know?
like a like a 0.4Z. I like it.
That's not bad at all.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Adrian, did you tell us what you thought about the film now?
I don't't think you shaved this.
I was I was waiting for Arnold to segue to me because
he always likes to y always likes to do a point of order and segue to me.
And I apologize because, you know.
No.
I was really, you know, I see that we're hitting that hour and 30 minute mark
you know, It's how every 30 minutes.
This will all be edited out.
Don't worry.
So, um No, I'm kidding.
So that's all I I got.
You can find me Arnie Collo everywhere when
I'm doing my normal thing, whether it's just living life
or putting it on my chef hat, chef boy Arnie hat
doing that stuff.
I'll be pulling more of that.
But yeah, you can catch me on there.
But let's swing it over to you, Adrian.
Well, thank you, Arnold.
How generously appropriate of you to do that.
Just stretching my hips.
I love this movie.
I'm going to just share my letterbox review.
That's what I'm gonna do from now on, verb.
I'm This is what I wrote, and this is how I feel.
In 2007, Wes Sanderson gave us the Dareling Limited.
The film follows three brothers as they embark on a
spiritual journey through India in honor
of their late father. least, that's what I thought in the beginning.
When I wrote this, I should say.
They board the eponymous train and along the way they begin to
reconcile with themselves and each other.
It has all the hallmarks of a Wes Anderson film.
Slick camera work, pastel colored set pieces, quirky banter, but most importantly,
I found myself completely immersed in the vibrant,
meticulously crafted world Wes Anderson created.
Every scene felt like stepping into a living painting,
and even the small details, like imagining a sweet lime drink in the sweltering heat,
made the experience feel tangible and refreshing.
At its core, the story is about family.
Vin Diesel is always right about that, Arnold.
And healing.
And I loved the ending where the brothers finally shed
the weight of their traumatic baggage and seemed ready to move forward.
It's poignant, offbeat
and full of the kind of warmth that lingers long after the credits.
And that's why I give this film a
four and a half stars, four and a half stars out of five on.
That's what you can find me on Letterbox
at Boots Too Big.
You can find the show everywhere else at Never Seen It Podcast.
And before we go, actually, I
wanted to introduce a quick, just a quick new segment.
I'm calling this The Comments of Love
because people sometimes leave us comments as you do on a social media post.
So someone left a comment for me specifically.
On my recent review of the
chemic Costner Eic Horizon in American Saga Chapter one.
Which platform?
This platform.
On Facebook.
And I won't say the name, by the way.
I'm going to be very I'm going to be a gentleman about this.
I'm not going to say the name, but this is a comment of love.
But we can go back and check on Facebook and do our own Facebook.
We'll call her Karen.
Karen says, wow
what an ugly looking goon.
Ignorance personified.
Obviously has a stick of jealousy stuck in his craw.
Class A jerk.
And then she goes on to say, those of us who love American history, loved it.
The more you watch it, the more you discover the film, hadn't note you hadn't noticed.
Shut your ignorant pie hole, on kept.
Your opinion was worthless..
He is not only a great actor, but an awesome director slash mentor slash teacher
writer, musician, singer, and to top it off at
70, he is still a hunk.
Very personable, handsome, debonair.
I wish I was making this up, by the way.
Masculine, Chat GPT could never.
Is it?
Masculine guy personality
smile and laughter is a delight
to the average, normal woman.
What have you got going for your ignorant, unattractive, boring, self, big mouth?
What a jackass.
So, there you go.
Come's low..
That That was from Kevin Costner's
throwaway page..
I never said Kevin Costner was untalented, by the way.
I never said that.
She poured her whole frozen soul into that.
That movie
that movie was so bad that the other two,
that one of them was finished, they won't release.
Are you trying to get a commentment of love, too?
Because that's what you get a comment of love, Justin.
Comment on me because I'm so beautiful.
Anyway, guys, that comment's a love.
Oh, guys, can I share one thing?
Yes, yes, Oh, sorry, Alex.
I didn't cut you.
No, no, no, go, go, go..
I mean, we're talking about like brothers and
family and death and stuff like that.
And, um,
uh, this has actually been sitting on my keyboard
the entire time because I found some like old photos of my past.
And I feel like it's a little bit fitting.
So I'd share with the world.
This is a photo of me, my brother, and my dad who passed
if you all can see.
Yeah.
And this is in the middle.
And this is when we went to visit him with
supervised visitations.
Where was that at?
Where was that taken?
I want to say I was like
nine or ten in this photo, but probably.
Wow.
Send me a digital scan of that, by the way, so I can drop it in the episode.
If you don't mind.
Definitely, I will try.
Nice.
Well, hey, look, we' all shared a lot of stuff tonight, mostly Alex and Justin.
Go ahead..
One thing I wanted to say, too, is, when it comes to,
I was listening to the this podcast called Modern Love and
it kind of reminded me of this whole of his three daughters because
one of the actresses was on that show being
interviewed and then they also thought of a Darjit Lingling did, obviously.
But the main thing was what I thought about like
this film was how
familial relationships, a lot of our communication.
A lot of times we are there
and trying to anticipate what other people are saying.
And that's why a lot of communication fails in
in our our our relationship where we like, when we're younger,
we understand to listen, but as we get older, um,
we learn about each other or we create these ideas of who these people are.
So we're anticipating what we think they're going to say rather than actually truly listening.
And I think that's one of those things that you see in this film.
you start to see them start to truly listen to each other.
And I think that was kind of an important thing that
I think that we we could all take away from this film.
And I think, you know,
Thank you.
Yeah, no.
Lots of good stuff.
I'm going to rewatch.
Yeah.
One thing I want to say, really quick, this has a high rewatch value for me.
I need to watch this again.
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Wizard of Oh, yeah, that was fun.
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Yeah, I want to see that so bad.,
even though I've never seen the movie Wizard of Oz.
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Well, hey, post-post show.
So shout out to the people that tuned in.
I don't know why Facebook and TikTok couldn't freaking work tonight, but we're going to get that ironed out.
So anyway, thanks to, yeah, thanks to everybody who participated in the chat.
That was fun.
So I appreciate that