In this episode of Never Seen It, the crew dives deep into the cult classic The Big Lebowski (1998). With one of the gang watching it for the first time, we unpack the film’s chaotic plot, iconic quotes, wild fan theories, and why the Coen Brothers’ slacker noir still abides in pop culture today.
In this laid-back but surprisingly deep episode of the Never Seen It podcast, we roll into the world of The Big Lebowski — the 1998 cult hit from Joel and Ethan Coen. From ferrets in bathtubs to White Russians, toe conspiracies, and one hell of a rug, we explore what makes this stoner-detective-comedy so unforgettable.
For Arnold, it's a first watch, and that fresh perspective kicks off hilarious tangents about mistaken identities, the film's nihilist philosophy, and the true meaning behind bowling alleys, flying rugs, and rogue coffee cans full of ashes. Is The Big Lebowski a story about nothing, or a deceptively complex tale about character, chaos, and finding peace in absurdity?
We debate whether “The Dude” is a passive protagonist or a chill philosopher, examine Sam Elliott’s cowboy as a possible manifestation of the Dude’s subconscious, and dive into deep-cut fan theories about schizophrenia, symbolism, and Coen Brothers meta-commentary.
Of course, we also get personal: White Russians, late-night pie binges, VHS memories, and how John Goodman’s unforgettable Walter might be the Redditor we all secretly fear. With meme culture breakdowns, behind-the-scenes trivia, and shoutouts to Grand Theft Auto V, Ghost Story, American Pie, and even True Romance, this episode is an eclectic celebration of all things Lebowski.
Whether you're a diehard fan or new to the film, this episode will have you laughing, thinking, and probably craving a Sprouts apple pie or a drink from The Jesus. So pour yourself a White Russian, kick back, and press play — because the Dude abides, and so do we.
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Arnold, with a pie, mind you, a pie.
Got some, What kind of pie is that?
As apple apple pie.
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What' you call me?
I was holding my tongue.
When you hold your tongue and say apple, you end up apple.
That makes perfect
We have Mr. Daily Dares, aka.
Yeah.
Filipino Grigio, Mr. Alex Ko, the Brothers Calo.
Mr. Donnie Appleseed, aka.
Donnie Guzman, the Cousins Calo, Mr. Shibbs, the Zombie, aka.
Justin Holden.
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Not related to.
He is a Boots too big.
Heyrian Deat Toran.
You know, I was listening to, was it our Inland Empire,
our Tom zone episode, and I was listening to it from the start, and I
didn't introduce you guys and any of us in that episode.
I just like got right into it.
I think because we got distracted by
Somebody played a.
Youed by the not a Castor
Van Den, but uh, that's what it was.
It was the Casper Van Diem mask.
Oh.
Or the not Casper, yeah.
James Vanderbeek mask.
James Vanderbek.
Yeah, Tiplo.
Is he a DJ on the side?
Is that's Is that the origin of that?
I missed that whole thing.
No, he looks like it's because he looks like Diplo.
He looks like Diplo.
Okay.
Who is a BJ?
He looks like Diplo.
He looks like Dipo, and then they made it a TV show because he looked like Diplo.
Ah, I see.
I'm waiting for the Davis TV show, personally.
Last time I saw Dipllo, I was rolling, what?
No, I just kidding.
But anyway, so that's the cast of characters on this show, and what are we talking about tonight?
We're talking about the 1998 film directed
by the Cohen brothers, Joel and Ethan Cohen, the big Lebowski
His name is Lebowski?
That's your name, dude.
This is one of my favorite films.
Jeffrey the Dude, Lebowski,
a Los Angeles slacker who only wants to bowl and drink
white Russians is mistaken for another Jeffreyrey
Lebowski, a wheelchair-bound millionaire, and finds himself
dragged into a strange series of events involving nihilists
adult film producers, ferrets, arrant
toes, and large sums of money.
I love that.
The nihilist part is what gets me.
I think that part is great
Anybody here, nihilist?
By chance?
Anybody, any Anybody here pract nalism?
Justin, you little bit?
What's a nihilist?
A nihilist is a person who just believes that there's no meaning to everything.
If you guys remember
our mutual friend Tim, he was always like, none, this matters.
That's very nihilistic, right?
That's a nihilistic take.
It's like when you think that there's no meaning.
Now, as a parent and Donning, you can probably relate to this.
Having a child makes you go, makes you realize maybe there is more to life than nothing.
I would think so.
I would hope so, right?
Anyways, what's the total opposite waror?
You believe that everything's connected?
An optimist?
I don't know, actually.
That's a good question.
I'm not a nihilist.
I'm a communist.
very good comrade.
What is the opposite of not?
I have to ask Chad.
I asked Chad C GPT everything now, by the way.
An existentialism?
An existentialist?
Is that it?
Yeah, I believe that's kind of like the opposites.
that was actually Google, by the way, not C GPT.
But why did I pick this movie?
I picked this movie because this is one of my favorite movies of all time.
This is a comedy.
It's almost kind of a comedy crime caper with
some surrealistic elements to it.
I think Jeff Bridge.
I mean, the cast is loaded, by the way.
You got Jeff Bridges, John Goodman, Julianne Moore, Steve Buscemi,
David Huddleston, Philip Seymour Hoffman
Tara Reed.
Now, there is a name I haven't heard in a long time.
I mean, it's a stacked cast of Who's Who, especially for the late 90s.
But the reason why I picked it is because it's probably
the most quotable movie up there with like the likes of Anchorman.
There's so many memes about this movie.
I actually just pulled up a bunch of pictures, like the whole Walter.
Am I the only one around here?
Meme
Am I the only one around here gives a shit about the rules?
And then there's like, well, that's just like your opinion, man
Yeah?
Well, you know, that's just like, uh, your opinion, man.
you know, that type of stuff.
I mean, I am all for that, that sort of thing.
It's been in the cultural zeitgeist for so long.
And I think there's something to it, right?
When a movie this old
lasts this long and a cultural zeitgeist, you know, you've done something right.
So Arnold, I want to start with you, though.
I think you're the only one here who has not seen this movie.
So I wanted to ask you, you're fresh off the presses.
What was your perception of this movie before you watched it?
Like, what did you know about it?
I really didn't know.
I was like, the big Lebowski.
What does that sound like?
My first thought was the big Valboski,
which is Valvinus from WWE.
Who was I His gimmick was
he was a former porn star turned wrestler.
And so everything, you
know, this was like, what, late 90s, late, mid 90ets?
Big Balbo?
I don't.
The big Balboski.
Oh, yeah.
I think I might have quoted him in another episode before.
Oh, yeah, I think it was in the Tombstone episode, you know, with the
I came, I Conquered, and I came again.
I really didn't know what it was.
I was like, is it is it like a
Mission Impossible?
Like, oh, the big big Balbowski.
Big Lebowski.
Like he's the man like with the master
plan who can find out whatever.
But he was kind of the opposite.
He was
didn't have the master plan.
He's just kind of going with the flow and things just just
happened, you know, he's he's a stoner.
Right.
Midnight toker.
Yeah, exactly.
I thought that I thought that it was the other way around.
I thought there was a porn star to wrestler pipeline, but you're saying it's a wrestler at a porn star pipeline.
Now, that's interesting.
I always thought it was the other way.
No, no, no.
It was a porn star to wrestler.
Oh, okay.
So I was, okay, that makes more sense.
Didn't the Hulk do some...
Never mind.
We're not going to get into it.
No, you know what?
He's talking from an arrested.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sylvester Stallone.
Sylvester, well, he was an arrestler, though, but I did hear about that.
He was known as the Italian Stallion, which, by the way, we had an Italian stallion on this show, but he's gone.
Hey.
A friend of the show.
Did you getting married, soon?
He is, actually.
Shout out to Gerardi for tying the knock.
Congratulations.
Don't ever hear this, but we're going to say it anyway.
Did you want to hear the Valvinus song?
I mean, is it copyright protected?
I don't know.
I've never heard this IP before.
I don't know.
Well, go ahead.
We'll cut it out if I'll have a research department of Into it.
Can you hear that?
I can.
That's funky.
The best part is.
Is that harmonica?
It'tica.
I thought it's a saxophone, no?
Yeah, saxop.
I couldn't even what it sounds like.
Oh, a saophone?
It sounded like a harmonica.
It sound like a pull in a harmonica.
In this entrance video, there was a guy who would come out like in the video.
He'd like playing a saon?
That was very Bo Clinton coded.
Arnold.
I think it was because it was the 90s.
Exactly.
Yeah.
The Clinton hears.
So, Arnold, tell me this.
Can you relate to the dude?
Do you sort of see yourself kind of in him a little bit or him and you?
If I' pretty chilled out like him?
If I continue on
on the same route that I was in high school
there may be.
I remember thinking that the the
life would be to just smoke weed and just go about your day.
But then, you know, this was before we had any bills and stuff.
And then
I wonder how how did he get money?
He just happened to...
I don't even know that that's ever explained.
No, they explain it.
They explain it.
Okay, we' getting..
He's actually, so when he's having, you know, they just having
finished having sex with whatever her name is, Julianne Moore's character
And they're laying there and he's like, he's kind of explaining like, so what do you do?
He's like, well, I don't really do much.
But how do you pay for things, you know?
And he goes, well, I wrote a couple books.
and Oh, that's right.
I think he's living off of residuals from those.
And then he was like, I can't remember what he was like the something eight.
I was like, I was one of the eight.
And then he's like, then I toured with Metallica.
He's like, oh, she's like, oh, yeah?
She's like, yeah, I was a Rhody.
That's so funny.
I completely forgot about that conversation.
Was that when they were like in bed?
Yeah, after in sex.
Yeah.
And then, oh, okay.
And then he had.
Why is he always smoking roaches?
Because that's what he does.
He's poor.
He's poor.
He's just like,
like caking.
Well, he's.
He lives within his means, right?
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, that's true.
That's right.
That's where it works.
He feels like laying down, and then he almost, I guess, what, inhaled the roach almost?
Yeah.
Like that I can rehale the roach before?
Yeah.
Is that justminatable for sure.
I was saying, have you guys ever had to smoke
a roach and accidentally inhale a roach before that?.
Arnold talked about that in the past, in that many.
I did. and swallowed it.
Yeah.
That was the only time I would say that I swallowed.
Wow.
Other than this pie.
Are you sure?
We should watch a ghost story next.
I think Arnold would appreciate a very specific scene in that movie.
Ghost story Spoilers.
Yeah, there's a movie called Ghost Story.
And there's a scene..
Yeah, and there's a scene where where what's
her name goes ham on a pie for like five straight minutes.
It's like
a very, very interesting scene in the movie.
American Pie styleyle?
American Pie Style?
Oh, no, no, not American pie style.
Oh, maybe we should do that movie next.
Okay, so Arnold..
Yeah, very good.
Is Is that, where'd you buy that from?
This is from Sprouts.
Sprout Shout out to Sprouts.
Yeah.
White Russians
Does anybody hear besides me like white Russians?
Because I love Russ.
I love drinking Kalua as it is.
Yeah, yes, Chris. love white Russians.
Shortly after the movie came out on like VHS
and I started watching that movie, I was like, white Russians became
my drink for a moment in time.
Yeah.
Is it made out of, so wait, did you say Kalua?
Is it cool?
ua, vodka, ice milk?
Yeah, exactly.
Heavy cream. heavy cream.
Oh, heavy cream.
Oh, okay.
Maybe I can do heavy cream.
I just feel like or half and a half.
cream or half half.
You could do like lactate milk.
That doesn't give you guys the gurgles.
Well, I think at this age it would.
Yeah, definitely at this age now.
I think that's why I stopped.
Yeah.
I think that's why I stopped.
Yeah.
I wonder how that would taste with condensed milk.
It's like, oh, that way too sweet..
That would be like I'm drinking a I'll be right back coffee.
You have to add a lot of vodka in order to balance it out.
Oh, yeah.
That sounds like it would be good.
Yeah.
I have some too.
Yeah, right?
Oh, Bella.
You can see her.
So what I like about this movie is
it has what I call like Simpsons plot logic,
which like if you guys ever watched The Simpsons, there's always something
that happens in like the first part of the episode that like
snowballs into this ridiculous thing that ends up being the whole
plot of any given episode.
This movie starts with
him coming home and then there's a bunch of dudes in his house
and then they think he's the other Lebowski and they're like, flushing
his face down the toilet. and stealing his rug,
which, or no, did they pee on it and then steal it or did they just pee on it and leave?
I can't remember.
No, no, no.
Somebody pe.
Somebody else steals it.
They pee it.
Somebody else.
Somebody else. someone else steals it.
Right.
That's all the movie starts
And that snowballs into him, meaning the
other Lebowski, the millionaire, and that it
just kind of escalates from there.
Don't forget the part.
He wrote the check for 69 cents.
Would Would you guys
consider this movie a comedy of errors?
I think so.
Yeah, like mistake error?
Well, he just He just falls into this adventure, right?
He's a hero.
But he's not denying.
And that's one of the things that I was thinking.
Like
this in terms of the whole Joseph Campbell, the journey
of the hero type of idea, you
think about the typical hero journey, and
it's like there's like a process where
like the hero, you have the introduction of the hero
the hero declines, the journey or whatever.
And then he comes into some folly and then he finally
accepts the adventure, whereas he's like not even like
declining it.
He's like, yeah, whatever, man, just take give me, take me on this ride.
And so there's like no like, like refusal
of the journey or the adventure.
He just takes it on without like thinking.
It's just like, he just rises wave.
That's such an interesting point because he's
almost like a passive main character, and they always say in writing,
like your main character should never be passive.
He has to be active.
But the dude, he just, he kind of, like you said,
he's he's along for the ride throughout the entire movie
And a lot of things happen that are sort of out of his power,
but he's, he gets wrangled into them regardless, right?
And he's and not only he's.
Go ahead.
But you know, what's funny is like, I kind of equate
him to like a person like how, remember when we were interviewing Kyle Mson
Mobson is just like, just says yes, even to his like his own debtriment, right?
Like, he's like, I'll just do it because I want to have like this weird experience.
And I kind of feel like Mabson and
the dude are like almost exactly the same.
you know?
And by the way, our music brought to you by Mr. Kyle Abson.
Yeah, no, he was a good guest to have on.
And I can see the parallels for sure.
But yeah, Arnold, since back to
you really quick, since you're the only one who hasn't seen it,
how important is character over story for you in a movie?
Specifically this movie.
Like, are you more of a character- driven guy are you
more of a plot-driven guy or do you like a little bit of both?
I'd see a little bit of both.
A little bit of both.
We got to find a nice balance.
Yeah.
I feel like ones that are having
to build a character, I mean, those are so rewarding
and more like in a series, like maybe a TV series or something.
But like, if it's like
in a movie, like say the Godfather or something
where you invest a lot of time into it, then,
you know, at the at the end, it's like, wow, you know, it's very magnificent.
But
I don't know about you, but for me, when I'm
looking at movies of what to watch, I'm like, damn,
I'm too hours and 25 minutes.
No.
Okay.
What's this?
An hour and 23 minutes?
Perfect.
What's the 69 minutes?
That is I'm like, oh, perfect.
But, well, but, you know, I don't know.
And it's maybe just my schedule of things.
So.
I know you, so you didn't really know much about the movie before you saw it.
As someone who presumably spends a good amount of time online,
were you ever exposed to all the memes?
Did you ever think like, who the hell's is, why is John
Goodman dressed in a beard and sunglasses and holding a gun?
Like, what is that about?
Like, did you ever get exposed to any of that?
You know what?
I don't know.
I think I just had a moment right now..
I've seen those flipping through like memes and stuff, and I'm like, I don't get it.
What's this all about?
Now, now I do.
What?
Guys, that deserves another slice of pie.
What do you guys doing?
Yeah, I think so.
You A little celebration.
I' bad.
I ever had it, please.
I got this from Sprouts.
Somebody got a piece earlier.
Is that apple pie, by the way?
Yeah, it's so good.
So good.
No alam mode?
Now you're giving them ideas.
No, I'm not.
An apple a day keeps a doctor away.
Yeah, you're that.
An apple a day, not an apple pie a day.
No, no.
There's four apples worth in here.
So it's I got to actually need a quarter of it at least.
And four.s. of Coca-Cola worth of sugar.
No, back to the movie.
Alex, I want to start with you for this question because there's a lot of bowling involved in this movie.
And I know the Coen brothers, right?
Like, they don't do anything by accident.
They're very much auteur filmmakers.
What do you think the bowling represents
in this movie, Alex?
Because I still don't even really understand that.
I feel like the bowling in this movie
just kind of represents like this casual
pastime that kind of almost reflects
the dude, right?
Most of the time you're sitting down watching other people roll, right?
Like a quarter of, like, depending on how many times you,
like, how many people are in your party, like, say, what's
the average, like group of people when you go bowling, maybe like at four tops?
Four or five or four more of the time you're actually standing up and bowling.
the rest of the time, you're like like three quarters of the the time you're just sitting down.
And even then, like you're drinking, you're,
you know, just socializing with your friends because you're not just, because you're such in close proximity.
So it's just kind of this casual, you could
Bowling is just almost a very casual thing.
Like, if they were to pick him a surfer, if they
were if this were to take place on the beach, right?
He'd have to be in the water.
And a lot of times you're solo, right?
You're like in the water by yourself.
You're not talking to anybody.
So like, other than like, like, I think bowling,
other than golf, maybe, but even golf would just be way too boring.
And it's more like golf is this, like,
rich people's sport, right?
Whereas like, bowling can be expensive, but it's
like, you have this one-time fee
and you just pay for your ball, right?
You don't even have to pay for ball.
You could like use the balls at the bowling alley.
You know, you rent the shoes, like people would start investing into it.
So it's like this every man sort of sport
that like kind of fits the
dude's, you know, persona and like lifestyle. because it's relatively cheap.
You could sit there for hours and then they like bowling, they
have those specials where you're like, oh, bowl for like three hours for like $10
You know?
And the only real muscle that you need is your forearm, right?
And most guys have strong
forearms.
Just say it, Arnold.
Say it.
Strong forearm..
Strong Arnold, are you leftty or righty?
Righty.
I'm right handed.
You know what you right with your Show your fores go like this.
Let's see how.
That would be funny.
You got some strong arms.
You look like a strong guy, Arnold.
I'm not.
Seriously.
I'm not.
We'll pretend you want it.
Strong.
Okay, now, that's an interesting take, Alex.
I could definitely see how bowling
is more of like the every man's like, you, social thing.
On a Friday night with the boys, grabbing some brew keys, right?
You could even take a girl on a date if you wanted to, you know?
It's like, it's a very
you know, ubiquitquitous kind of like social event, right?
Like, I would say girl bowling if she, you know, like I was like, I was in the mood.
Do all the sports with your strong arm.
If she was down.
Yeah.
She's all like, wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Billiards wouldn't worked good in this movie then too, right?
Bill, yeah.
Yes.
Yeah, but billiards.
It's, I don't know.
It's just a one-. sitting around a courted time.
I mean, billiards than I am at bowling, so I want to stick with bowling.
Let me ask you guys this, though.
John Goodman steals every scene he's in this movie.
My favorite scene is when he loses
a shit and he's like pulling his gun out.
I'm am I the only one around here?
But the next best scene, and this is where him and the dude, this is a little bit later on,
and the dude has supposedly
Tara Reid's character's toe and he's like, this has to be a toe.
This has to be her.
And John Kman's like, oh, I get you a toe, dude.
I can get you a toe right now.
You just say the word, I'll get you a toe.
I mean, every scene that guy's in is great.
What is your guys' favorite John Goodman scene in this movie?
And Don, I'll start with you.
Yeah, the same one that you mentioned in the beginning where
he pulls out the gun and he's like taking the competition seriously or more serious than everybody else..
I was racking up in that scene.
And Speaking of bowling, I don't I don't think Jeff Bridges' character bowled
at all, or we don't see him bowling.
Do you remember seeing him bowling?
What?
I think I remember seeing him do it.
I don't, actually.
Now that I think about it.
I don't actually bowl.
I don't think he actually got.
Yeah, yeah, I don't see him actually bowl.
Yeah, yeah.
But funny in the midst of getting ready for.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But we never see him bowl, yeah.
I just realize that.
So, like, John Taturo is in there.
He bowls.
John Turturo, yes. throws a ball.
The Jesus.
Who else in, like in that like sort of crew,
actually, Steve Steve Buscemi, does he roll a ball?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Uh-huh Yeah, yeah, he does, yeah.
He must, right?
And we actually see.
I could be Ronald.
I could be wrong.
And I just I just watched it.
I just don't recall it.
Oh, yeah.
That's why I was like, I don't think I've seen a bull.
Well, I just watched it too.
That's another thing too.
Like
well, he is part of the league.
Never mind.
Never mind.
Yeah, yeah.
Because remember, he threatens to get out of the league?
Yeah.
Remember, you don't mess with the Jesus.
Justin, what's your favorite.
Actually, how about this?
What's your favorite, like, just overall scene in general from this movie?
Because I know you must have one because this is just full of
a lot of gold moments, a lot of jam.
I don't know.
Yeah, there's a lot of really good moments in this movie.
I think like what you guys were saying earlier
with like the Simpson, like slapstick physical
comedy and stuff that happens in this movie, like him putting
that boy on the floor and then the door opens the other
way only until later on in the movie trip over that same board.
I thought that was, that was genius.
I don't know.
I just say my favorite scene in
the entire movie is actually the very ending where
they put Donnie in the Folgers can and
his ashes in the Folgers can.
I think that whole scene is just
so representative of who
these characters are in general.
Just like lazy.
They don't give a shit about anything.
Like they, they loved, they obviously loved
their friend, which is why like they both started like, you can hear them
in their voice cracking it, their voice is cracking because they're like tearing up and stuff.
And you can tell they had, they had a genuine sentimental moment.
Like they truly cared about their friend, but at
the same time, they're both just kind of like, life goes on, you know?
I think those are my
my personal favorite scenes in the movie.
I love when, when Donnie's ashes get on
the dude and he's just like standing there like, what does John Bimman try to like kind of brush him off?
He's like, get away from me, man.
Or whatever he says, he says something to him.
Didn't he get in his mouth or something?
He's like, what is that?
Yeah.
He was also like pissed off at Walter
jungle, like just bringing up all this random Vietnam shit.
He was upset that like, you know, we're
here for Donnie and he's like just like overtaking like
his own personal agenda, like this, you know,
co-opting like Donnie's funeral to, you know, just to who??
He's just talking to the dude.
That's it...
It's like,
Walter is very Reddor-coded, isn't he?
He's like that guy who's like a know it all.
Yeah.
He's a lot of unresolved anger and trauma.
For sure.
Yeah.
He would have done numbers on Reddit, though, because he's just like that.
Well, actually type of dude, like, you know, he
knows better than you about any, any little thing
Some of my favorite moments from
this movie are there are small moments too.
It's like the scene where he's in the the cab and he
tells the cab driver to change the music and he's just like,
I just, I fucking hate the Eagles, man.
And then he just pulls over and just drags him out of the cab and just leaves.
Like, that's a great moment.
The scene where they go to the guy's house with the kid in the iron lung.
That was why.
The dad was in the iron lung.
The kid, the son was like, just.
I forgot.
Like letting Walter's just yelling at him.
He's just like.
And then what does he do?
He goes out and busts the guy's windshield and shit.
He just assumes that the Corvette that he
spent $30, $20,000.
Oh, and yeah, they're like, oh, he's got to have at least 960 or $970,000.
Yeah.
Just goes to tell you
no, man, how much And then the actual owner comes
out and starts beating the dude's car.
Well, you know what?
I have a question about him.
Would you guys park your brand new expensive
car across the street away from your house, like on the other side of the street?
Not if I had to
There's no way.
You came likeagonal.
Not if I didn't have to.
Like, not even my cheap car.
Right.
For real though.
It's like, that shit's going to get stolen.
Well, I feel like it's a little detail that like the guy that owns
a car is an old dude because that's like known as like the midlife crisis car.
So I thought that was, I don't know if that was intentional or not, but if
it was, I thought that was a nice little little touch.
But getting back to like Walter, like John Goodman's character, you're like your favorite kind of
I found him like infuriating.
He's so good.
I found what?
Infuriating.
Oh, yeah.
He waser. his friends.
He was so insufferable.
Like he would not like, give anybody like
the room to like, like give their opinion.
He's like, just very dismissive
like, like, what kind of friend are you?
But it just kind of shows you like how relaxed the dude is.
You just like kind of like oh like somebody like like
Walter just would roll off his back.
And it takes a lot for him to like really get upset, you know?
And like even then he's just like so forgiving of Walter, you know?
And it's like.
You got to be like that to be his friend, you know?
Yeah Or to be friends with someone like that.
Yeah, yeah.
Which I find such like a really kind of crazy, like juxtaposition.
Like the dude is just like the ultimate.
And it makes sense that you place
John Goodnessman's character with the dude, right?
They play absolute polar opposite sides
of the spectrum, but you need that kind of thing to
kind of express how laid back the
dude really is, not just like with all the calamity that ensues in this film
but like just the people he keeps around himself, you know?
I think this has got to be where like one of my
favorite John Goodman characters are of there, definitely.
It's so interesting because John Goodman was in a movie, I think it was a Colin Brothers movie.
It was the one where John Turturo is the writer.
He's been in so many of the Coen Brothers movies.
Yeah.
I wish I could remember the name.
Shoot.
Yeah, I can't remember the name of it, but I think it's a going Brothers movie.
But yeah, John Goodman's terrifying in that movie.
Like the guy has range, fellas.
The guy has range.
He can play goofy
He can play scary as fuck.
He can play.
I think he can play anything John Goodman.
Um But yeah, and that's why I think he steals every scene he's in.
You're right, Alex.
He's the perfect foil for for
the dude's a character in this movie.
What did you guys think of the whole, when
the dude gets drugged and there's that whole musical stage sequence?
Arnold, I'll start with you.
What did you think of that sequence?
Because that really kind of felt like it came out of a left field.
I would imagine if you'd never seen the movie before, right?
It did feel like it came out of left field to me.
Yeah, what did you make of that whole, that whole set piece?
Like, oh, we're going on the trip with him.
What did it give him?
What was in that drink?
Is that very relatable?
I' Now, I've never had
that done to me, and I've never done that to anybody.
Honestly.
Was it a roller coaster ride?
I was going to say.
No, roller coaster rides are a lot more fun.
Yeah.
I feel like when there's gangsters involved, there's more of a shovel, right?
More of a shovel.
Oh, right, right.
Yeah.
He kind of did do that going down the stairs when he was like dancing
I was like, whoa, like, it was the
foot movement, but didn't do the shovel movement.
But when he was going down those stairs, he
kind of had that little bit of that shuffle dance.
So was that to you the weirdest scene in the whole movie?
I mean, there's a lot of weird moments in this movie, so I'm just wondering, like from the
perspective of someone who hasn't seen it, like, what was the weirdest,
most surreal moment in this movie for you?
Oh, okay.
So I admit, um,
I started watching it last night after we went
to Baskin Robbins and, um, a showar crashed a little bit.
So, uh, You didn't have beer with your ice cream, did you?
Oh, hell no.
No.
So I
might have, there might have been a few parts that I missed, but
I, but I rewatched
it and I kept on rewinding it last night and I was like, man, I'm just tired.
I got to finish watching it tomorrow, today, which I did today.
And
I forgot.
What was the question?
The question, what was the most surrereal or
crazy moment in this movie to you?
That was, I mean, because
it really did feel most out of left field and
yeah, just, I don't
know how the best way to describe it, but like,
yeah, like you're going on the trip on the whatever drug trip that he was going through.
You're going through it with him.
Right.
I thought it was kind of cool how they did that.
Like, I don't know.
It was it was definitely out there.
I would think that's the weirdest scene, but I thought it was I thought it was really cool.
I like the scene where
like he's flying through the sky.
Oh, yeah.
I forgot about that one.
So I thought about this
before, too, and I'm going to, I'll just say it on here.
It's have you guys ever played like Grand Theft Auto 5
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
So there's like, there there's like a there's like a scene in
that game where your character gets
like knocked out or drugged or something like that.
I think, he like smoked like a special weed in.
Yeah, he's like downtown or something..
And then and then he starts like, uh, then he starts his name is Michael in Grand Theftadouto.
And then he starts like flying around and stuff
It kind of, I feel like, I feel
like that was a a reference to the Big Lebowski,
in my opinion, because it had similar themes.
I don't know.
I like that scene a lot, though, because it kind of just reminded me of Grand Theft Auto.
I don't know.
Was he on a rug?
Was he flying on the rug or no?
At one point?
Yeah, he was flying on the road.
Was he flying?
At one point with someone else?
Yep.
No, it was him flying on the the rug.
It was him flying.
The game that you're referencing Grand Theftado, does that is that the one that takes place in L.A?
Yes.
Which makes sense because...
Los Santos.
Big Lowski takes place in L.A. Right..
There you go.
What does in LA did they film it at.
Where?
Yeah, what bowling alley?
Oh, I don't
do you know?
Probably.
actually.
I think they mentioned here.
It looks familiar.
Didn't he say Malibu at one point?
I forgot what they were at, but they mentioned Malib.
Wait, he was at that point porn producers' party.
Oh, that's right.
That's right.
Yeah, you're right.
Hollywood Starl Lanes, a real, that was a real bowling
alley located at 5227 San Juan at the Boulevard in L.A. So.
That was interesting when a
city like LA or New York plays a character in a movie.
And I think most movies that take place in L.A, I feel
like they have more more texture than movies that even take place in New York.
Like New York is great.
Don't get me wrong.
It's a great setting, but I don't know, I guess because I'm from Southern California
when you see LA in a movie and it's kind of like a character, you know, I think that's pretty cool, you know, because like you can relate to it
you know, on a personal level.
When you mention the rug, did, the
interview, remember at the beginning, the guy, he pisses
on his rug, but then not too much later,
maybe, I don't know, maybe 20 minutes later, he's like laying on the rug.
I'm like, uh
dang.
Isn't that the rug that he pissed on him?
No, no, no, no, no.
Remember, he gets the new rug from..
The new rug from the guy.
Oh, he's the new rug.
That was one of my favorite scenes when he got when he got that rug.
I don't know.
I thought it was hilarious.
I love that scene.
He's like, he said I could take whatever rug I want.
I was like, what the hell?
I don't remember that.
I think I for sure fell asleep on that part.
Yeah, I mean.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What?
I love the little strings, like the little threads
that they connect Howie, because that rug that he takes
from Mr. Lbowski's mansion belongs to Julianne Moore
And that's why is it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
She' why she goes He'll sent a to her, right?
Yeah, he sent aental to her and her mom.
Oh.
That makes sense now.
That's when you find out that she and her mom are the ones who
the ones with the money, not Mr. Lebowski.
He's just like who's just like a figurehead.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, explain this to me because I've seen this movie lots of times.
It's one of my favorite movies.
I never understood.
If that wasn't Tara Reed's toe, which we see that it's not, because we see her driving.
And then there's a close-up on her feet
and you see all five toes on each foot.
Whose toe was it?
Like, was it somebody random or are we supposed to not even know?
What's the deal with that toe?
No.
The toe belonged to the girlfriend
of one of the nihilists.
Oh!
Because if he's noticed. they're in the diner, they pan down, and then you see the girl.
She's at the end of the table.
She's in it sitting at the and you see her foot and it's missing on top.
Yes.
Okay, okay.
So I saw with you, in the scene
with where she's driving in the convertible and
they pan down to her foot and her to, her pinky toe is missing.
Well, he was missing the nail.s not missing.
No, it's not missing.
It was just like shadowed.
So it makes you fix like, maybe it was her.
Maybe she did like it.
But like they actually give show evidence later on in the film when they're.
I'm about to type something into Google.
It's going to put me on a list.
Tara Re's toe.
You know what's funny?
I feel like you've Googled this before.
No comment on that.
It's in the search history.
No, no, yeah..
I have the picture, and you're right, Alex.
It's from her left foot.
So
So this is this would be her big toe.
big.
And you see the pinky toe, but it's all the way in darkness.
Like you said, it's there, but it's just cast in shadow.
Darkness.
So you're right about that.
Nice couch there.
Okay.
The lighting.
Amazing.
Yeah.
Yeah, the great lighting.
Great toe lighting.
Quinn Tarantino will be proud
of the toe lighting in this movie.
Actually, no, Quin Tarantino would have it full frontal.
Go ahead on the lighting and the toes.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
That's good color.
What do you guys think, and I'll start with you, Arnold, since you're the one who hasn't seen it.
What do you think of Sam Elliot's character as the cowboy,
the cowboy played Sam Elliott?
What'd you think about?
Oh.
Well, my first thought was like, oh, that's that guy in that TV show.
Isn't he he the optimist, what you're saying, Arnold?
Isn't he like, sometimes, dude, you just gotta do what you gotta do?
He's very much like trying to give him good advice, right?
Yeah, dude.
I do get that, that vibe, that feeling that he's getting giving him
some good advice, shedding some wisdom, some.
Have you had a mentor, Arnold?
In your life?
Like on purpose?
No, just in general.
Like, Have you ever had someone in your life that was like your cowboy
giving you sage advice at a bar or
My cowboy. doesn't have to be a cowboy.
It could be a ninja.
How about when you go to BC BG?
BC.
What was that?
The B?
CCBBC?
I don't know what you're talking about.
CCBC?
I don't I don't
Yeah, I don't have to think about that if I mean There's
a lot of people out there that that I kind of,
you know, look up to and kind of
you know, get your inspiration phone.
Alex is right here.
Thank you for Alex, you know, thank you for that, Arnold.
Alex is thinking.
No, but let me ask you
guys this, and I'll start with you, Justin.
What do you think the Cowboy represents?
I'm glad you came to me next because I've been clamoating.
No, okay.
So this is, I honestly didn't do any research, shame on me, but
I'm just going to throw a personal theory out there.
So like Sam Elliott's
character as the stranger.
My theory is that
the dude is a pawn in
a story, being told by the stranger.
Now, this isn't, my theory is, is that this
isn't the only story that the dude
partakes in these adventures, no matter how mundane.
It's kind of like a matrix-y kind of
thing where it's like you have this stranger
who is telling this story as
the narrator, but also kind of interjects
here and there in moments where it seems like
the character of the dude kind of just needs that, you know
regular personal conversation conversation,
almost kind of like a, a boost meup kind
of pep talk.
Like it's not really a pep talk, but, but it
does come across as as one for the character itself.
Almost Truman show style.
But that's just my theory is that the stranger is
the one telling his story and just using using the
dude is kind of like a pawn in the story.
That's an interesting angle.
I could see that.
I like that theory, Justin
And to add on to it, I kind of,
I kind of agree with you that it's almost
like, if you think about it, like in true romance.
character has a mentor.
And it's his mentor is an Elvis Presley type, right?
Always appearing to him at like these, like
times when he needs it, right?
And if you notice, like, like,
the stranger is kind of like the mentor.
He appears at like these times when he need it.
I think you might be right onto a theory, you know?
That's like, I think that's a really good thought.
Spot on it down.
I agree.
Yeah, I mean, it's just, the way it comes off to me, when
I I've seen this movie quite a few times now.
And it's just like going from
like the beginning to the specific
like sections of the movie where the stranger just shows up to
like the ending of the movie and how like he's telling
the story and wrapping it up and
things like that.
He's kind of like, he's a little bit,
um, how do I say, uh, he
doesn't like lead up on the
It's escaping my mind.
I am I'm sorry.
But it's kind of like he's open-ended
when it comes to telling these stories.
Even like his intro is kind of just, you know,
a walk in the park kind of thing.
And then he, and then when he wraps up, wraps
up the rest of the movie, it just seems a little bit open-ended,
like, like, oh, we might get like another story
eventually, or I might tell another story.
I don't know.
It just seems, uh, it seems all around a little bit open-ended for a story.
So I, I like what
you said about like him being a pawn, but I think the pawn is like
kind of the wrong word to call him.
Like, remember he says, the dude abides, right at the very end?
Oh, yeah.
I think you're right when he say you're saying like he's a somewhat like of a
person who's kind of, he's
like the watcher from Marvel, you know?
But the watcher is a little bit too much.
He's too much hands off, whereas the stranger
is a little bit in between and the character in
Tr, the mentor for Christian Ser is like almost more
two hands on.
So he's like a perfect medium.
Like he's like, and he's like, he
knows that the dude is going to be going on these adventures
and he almost foresees it.
and it steps in when necessary.
Like, he'll like..
So he's not really like a puppet master per se,
like a pawn, but he's also not..
He's there.
He's definitely like a mentor.
Like, you know what I mean?
I agree with.
When you say he's like his conscience
Also?
It could be.
It could be.
Playing like devil's advocate, like during the time that he needs him.
You could be right.
I think that could be his conscience, too.
Or it could be, it could be like seen as in so many different levels.
It could be like, um,
you know, it's his moral compass, his like,
you know, like, or even he could like full on schizophrenia,
you know, where he's like having having like yeah, that's true.
Like these like people just appear on him.
Like he's like, oh, I'm talking to this guy, you know?
And that's the thing too.
He's like, he could like the dude could just be imagining the stranger
I, uh, I like that there's
like a magical element to Elvis in True
Romance and then the stranger in this movie.
I feel like there's he's like otherworldly almost, right?
Like he doesn't really fit in
to the story, like, physically.
Like, there's like a there's a other element to him, which is great.
But they play like a supporive roles though, though.
They're like, yeah, I got you.
I really believe in you type of deal.
It's funny that you mentioned like schizophrenia
because now that that I'm thinking about it, that you mentioned it, it's like maybe like
Donnie and John Goodman's character.
What's his name?
But they are, yeah, Walter, maybe
they're all like, kind of figments of his imagination.
Like Walter's his like really aggressive
um, you know, pessimistic side,
um, or not pessimistic cynical side, while Donnie
is more of like the, um, quiet,
you know, pushover. and then, and then the dude just
remains neutral to, to both of them.
Are you thinking That be interesting Are you think it's full-on M Night Shyamalan?
What's that universe that he made?
Yeah.
I was thinking of that too.
What's that character?
Oh, I can't remember the name of itit split.
You think it's like a H-on split?
Like he's like Maybe not to theent of full-on split, but
I think that maybe all the characters
represent a piece of the dude..
So maybe not necessarily like he has a
split personality thing, but it just seems like,
you know, the pushover side,
you know, what Donnie represents, uh, the pushover side since Donnie
passed away from a heart attack, maybe
that, maybe that's a sign of like, maybe the dude actually like
learned something from this experience.
I don't think it's full schizophrenia.
I think it like partially just just the stranger.
But I think
you need those characters to actually, like like
John Goodman's character and Donnie to actually exist in reality, to balance out that
the dude in the story That would be funny, though.
It would be funny.
That would be funny.
I always like if you would be like It would be hilarious
sizophrenic, like total split thing, you know?
But I don't think it, in the sense of the movie, I would rather see that
know that these characters Donnie and
Walter actual..
If they were people, yeah.
If they were schizophrenic manifestations, I would prefer
those two over what actual schizophrenia is, because you guys have ever heard of schizophrenia simulator on YouTube?
It's fucking terrifying.
Terrifying.
Oh, yeah, I've seen those.
Yeah.
I would rather hear John Goodman talking about Vietnam than what's schizophrenic here?
I guess in the sense, I just like peding film conspiracy theories.
Oh, that's good.
I like that.
I like that.
That was really good.
That's good.
I want to read one quick, one quick review
on Letterboxd from user John, because I thought this was really good.
The Big Lebowski is about nothing.
Walter is Jewish, but he's not.
The dude is the Lebowski, but he's not.
The dude and Walter are bowlers, but we never see them play
They'hil There are not nihilists, but they're not, since they care about money.
Bunny is kidnapped, but she's not.
The briefcase is full of money, but it's not.
Donnie's ashes are thrown into the Pacific Ocean, but they go
to the dude instead because he is more Pacific than the Pacific.
The only thing this film stays true too, is the characters themselves that we grow to love
and become our friends as Tangles by.
And I think it's underrated and how clever that is due to howirm
of a grasp the Cohen have on their work.
That's the magic of movies and the magic of the movie.
Making such a clever film seems so easy.
That's a great review.
I. I agree 1000%.
good stuff there, fellas.
Good discussion.
Yeah, I think we're at that point.
Donia, let's start with you.
What are your final thoughts about this film and where can people find you?
Yeah.
You can find me on underscore Donnie Appleseed, all in Word
on Instagram, mainly, when I think of this movie.
This is my second time watching it.
I haven't watched it since like, I was in high school.
I think it was like 99-ish
But I loved it.
I don't, you know what?
The first time I watched it, I don't, I don't remember the cast being like this good.
Like, I don't, I don't, yeah, I was like, I didn't realize that this
person was in that movie and this person was in that movie.
But yeah, great cast, great lineup of quirky characters
Unlike, you know, classic Cohen style movie were like with all the twists and stuff.
I thought it was really good.
But yeah, what are we rated on?
Is it a star system of five?
I forget.
Yeah, if you want to rate it.
Letterbox 5.
Letterbox Letterbox V.
Okay.
I would give it a 4.5 out of five.
Definitely rewatchable.
Awesome.
Alex, I'll go to you next.
Final thoughts, work, can people find you
You could find me on all the socials, under Daily Dares.
You can go to my Instagram and find the LinkedIn or LinkedIn,
the link to all my other links, including
the collectible where I sell LinkedI.
Yeah, my LinkedIn.
Don't try to find me on LinkedIn.
Let's make some money.
So.
I feel like.
Okay, just some quick notes that I had.
So I wonder, so
Flea from the Red Hot Chili Peppers is in this movie, right?
Wait, what?
Yeah.
He's one of the nihilists.
Oh.
Fleas also a lot of other legendary
movies, like Back to the Future 2..
For someone whose favorite movie this is, I don't I' not knowing a lot tonight.
Go ahead.
So, I wonder how much, like,
that's probably, I wonder if this is why he doesn't have to do as many Red Hot Chili Peppers albums.
You know?
Yeah, I like that he's in all three back or at least the
first and third back to the Future in such two roles.
No, he's in the second one too.
He's he's like
Marty's boss.
You?
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Yeah, yeah.
I remember that.
Marty's boss in part two.
Yeah.
So, yeah, he's like getting residuals from like back to all the back to the futureuture movies.
He's got getting residuals from like
like this movie.
So hes like, and they' just bit parts.
He doesn't have to do anything else.
He's like, if I could just like stumble on into a roles like
better in like legendary movies, I would love to have a head back career,
you know, like Ron Heard's brother.
He's in like so many different movies.s like he's like been parts.
Well, he's in all- Ron's movies, to be fair.
And also when your brother's the director.
that's true.
That's true.
He's good, though.
He's good.
And then, uh, yeah,
like, one other note, I recently watched that documentary called Kim's Video.
I mentioned it before.
It's about like this video store, like legendary chain of video stores in New York
that actually, like the guy, he actually would like the
owner, he would get all these hard to- find movies.
And he'd dubbed them and rent them out.
And like the FBI would find out and he would like
get it all, get rated, but then he'd just go back to doing
it and just like, like redub all these movies and like start renting the game.
Because he had an appreciation for film.
I like that.
Lo-fi piracy.
That's great.
I mean, you can only do that in like the 90s.
So I remember going to LA. once and
like there's like one of my favorite record storess I had bootlegs.
They would sell bootlegs.
And I remember we were, I was going to it once and they were shut down and
there was a bunch of cops and they were going in and out carrying boxes.
It's like, oh, they got raided.
um.
That's a great use of police resources, by the way.
Is that amoeba?
No, amoeba is above water.
So they're like, They've never had any bootleets.
I know there was a place in, like, not to, uh,
to track from what you're saying, but there was a place in, in
Chinatown, in Los Angeles.
There was like a little store there and
they sold like a bunch of like, I think, honestly, I think I went with there with you, Alex.
And I bought like a a few, a few kung
Fu movies and that was where I first discovered the
movie like A Bach and It Man I bought those movies.
That was great.
They were so boot-legged.
They were good, though.
That was my first experience, but yeah.
But yeah, so Kim's.
The lore runs deep on the Neveren a podcast.
But Kim's video, the
Coen brothers would go there and rent movies.
And they had like before they closed down, like they were trying to get all
the late fees paid up just to like, make
as much extra money as possible.
And the Coen brothers had like a $3,000 late fee.
And they never paid it back.
They never paid it back.
It's like they were always just, it was when they were trend to collect,
it was like at the time of their, like their heyday of like
they were making all these films like Fargo and like the
movies that were like big big hits.
And so they couldn't get it hold of the co-own brothers that
like talk to like assistants or like, it's like, okay, whatever, never mind.
They never forget about it.
I could see a rich person being so petty that they wouldn't pay their late fee.
I could totally see that.
They ended up like forgiving the Coone Brothers' late fees, which is I think is hilarious.
But yeah, overall, I love this movie.
It's funny that like when I first watched it,
I was like a teenager, probably like
17,8.
And
like, I remember watching it.
Like, just like you, like, I remember in, I
was re-listening to the Pan's Labyrinth episode,
and Donald, he was saying, like, yeah, I
went, I had a different view of Pan's Labyrinth than I
had today with his recent watching.
He's like, I came with a different meaning
And that was the same thing for me.
Like, I remember, but I think it's had a
lot to do with me working at a video store, getting me able to get rent
for free, but also like wanting to like watch as many
movies as possible just so I could like have an opinion.
And a lot of times I just throw it in there and I just to be doing stuff in, like it'd be on in the background.
So like my understanding of the
Big Lebowski was kind of
like surface level.
So I didn't really get it.
I would like understand the memes and I and I loved
like a lot of the characters in it, but I didn't really.
After watching it yesterday, that's
when I was like, oh, oh, I was just kind of blown away by like
how good of a movie it is.
I knew it was a good movie.
I liked it when I would recommend it, but it was just kind of like very surface level.
But now, like, after watching it again, you see a lot of the
the philosophy
that comes into play for the dude, you know?
Like how he lives his life and how, like,
if we all could just live that way, if
like a capitalist society didn't exist, this is how we we should be, right?
This kind of role with it, you know, like
live within our means, you know,
like share with each other our resources.
You know, who cares if somebody pees on your rug?
Like, we'll just get another one from some rich dude's house.
and he may not even care, you know?
It would be like such a small deal that it's just like, whatever.
Like just take take one.
Yeah, whatever.
I have a lot of them.
I have more take one.
But yeah, like overall, I think this is such a, like a great movie.
And it's honestly a very simple story, to be honest.
Like, it's not like super complicated, but the
Coen brothers add so much
depth with their case characters
that it makes the movie that much better.
Like you were talking to asking Arnold, do you like a film
that is more story driven or you like a character driven?
And I feel like
this is a very character driven movie, you know?
It's not to say that it has no story, but like it's like
the story develops within
just these conflicting characters, you know?
And even within the friend groups, there's conflict.
But that creates interest in who
these characters are even more so, you know?
Like
the conflict between Walter and the dude, right?
There's like, they're friends, but they like always fighting, right?
And it's like they, he's
just, Walter just co-ops, like this mission to like,
give the money back to the kidnappers, right?
He's like, this is not what I want to do.
The dude is just like, let's just give them money.
I mean, $20,000 was enough for him, right?
And he's like, why can't you live with him those means?
It just doesn't make sense to him for Walter
to, you know, like, why can't you
live within your means like, I can't, you know?
But, like, the
dude abides, and I abide by my rating of four out of five.
Nice.
Thank you for that, Alex.
That's good stuff.
Justin, go to you next.
What are your final thoughts?
Where can people find you?
Yay, final thoughts.
I love watching this movie.
Um This is one of those films that, uh,
if you're talking to somebody and you're
quoting the Big Lebowski and then they're like, what's that from?
Then it's one of those movies where like, what?
You've never seen it before?
Yeah.
So, and then, and then you get reprimanded by literally everybody
else that's around that has also seen it.
So, um, definitely worth the watch.
It is a classic.
Jeff Bridges in his prime, maybe.
I think, I think everybody.
In this movie.
yeah, his second prime, his first prime was Tron.
Um No, anyway, everybody
handles their character really well.
Although it is kind of interesting to see
Steve Buscemi kind of take a backseat.
Yeah.
And also, I just want to like point out, it's like, you're out of your depth.
It's almost like the Cohen brothers just kind of rented a
lot of Adam Sandler's friends for this movie specifically.
Yeah, right.
So it's just kind of kind of interesting seeing a lot of familiar faces
from Adam Sandler movies.
But
yeah, uh this movie, like Alex
said, I think Alex pretty much summed up anything and everything I was
going to say about it, but uh this movie does have a lot of depths.
Sorry.
No, it's okay.
Uh, The, as far as like, uh,
going back to the question, am I like
a character driven moviegoer or
if I'm a plot driven movie go?
I guess it really depends.
I would say most of the time, I think I'm
more of a plot driven movie goer,
only because you can have, and I've seen it in a couple of movies myself.
It's like, you you can have
just absolutely horrific acting,
but once that plot kicks in and you're like, damn,
you know, what, what a kicker, then all of that like
bad writing for the actors kind of sort of goes out the window.
I think as long as you can have a nice, well-written plot
I I think most of the time the
characters can potentially just take a backseat to the plot.
So I definitely like plot more than characters
because let's be honest, there's a lot of movies out there
where you just sit there and you're like, man, I really
hate these characters so much, but this movie is so fucking good.
Have you ever seen kids?
That's that's one,
well, there's a few, there's a few of us.
I'm not going to go into details.
But yeah, so to sum it all up, I
give this movie a actually a five out of five.
It's one of my favorites.
I'm actually very happy we got to watch it because
hearing all of you talk about it really is open my eyes to like
some other things that I didn't really think about.
So I appreciate that.
So, uh five out of five, letterboxed.
You can find me Shibbs, the zombie SHIBBS,
the Zombie on Instagram.
And you can just follow the links by clicking in my profile and
looking at my search history.
Well, Paler is going
to have all that anyway, so don't worry about that, Jesse.
But thank you for that, though.
Arnold, let's go to you next.
Final thoughts.
Where can people find you?
Oh, final thoughts.
Well, you can find me at Arnie Collgo everywhere.
Um,
TikTok, Instagram, Snapchat, LinkedIn.
Yeah,
you don't want to find me there for some of
my comments, I guess maybe that, there's
a lot a lot of people who, I mean, you guys really love this movie.
Maybe it's because I fell asleep the first
half, the first hour yesterday and it kept on having to rewind it.
At first, originally, initially,
I was like, it didn't really appeal to me.
but then I had to say maybe today, um more awake.
And I did find it
kind of funny, funny and
and so so maybe I didn't give it its due,
give my full attention, but I
did find it, I did I can feel,
I can sense that there there's a high rewatchability
So I'll probably watch it again.
But going back to like what we're talking about,
how John Goodman, to me, he was really great.
I love those parts.
Like, he'll blow up and then like,
you know, the dude, he get mad at him for, you know, whatever it was.
And then he's like,
fuck it, man.
Let's go bowl.
And then or like that scene
that just happened with with the car,
I think, where he mistook
the, he just assumed that the kid bought the Corvette
But then the guy trashed their car or the dude's car.
And then next scene, they're like, he's
eating a burger and drinking a soda like, oh, hmm, you know, just like whatever.
Or in the in the bed diner when the
the waitress of the server, she's like,
sir, you need to tone your voice down.
You need to quiet down.
This is a family restaurant.
and like, the dude he ends
up leaving because he's just like embarrassed or whatever.
And then John Goodman's like, I'm going to finish my coffee.
Whatever it was, he just,
he really stood out a lot and kind of like, speaking
of, I think he said, like, oh, he just, he just took over.
I thought it was really funny when they're driving and
the dude, he, he wants his help delivering the
suitcase with with the money.
But then all of a sudden, Walter's
like, us, a we, you know, he's like, what do you mean us?
What do you meanwe?
This is this is like, his deal, he just wanted his help.
But then he
he's all of a sudden like, dude, we just, we just take the money.
What are they going to do?
That was pretty hilarious.
I guess like I gravitate to a lot of like gangster type of, um
uh, behavior.
And I just, I don't know.
I thought that was funny.
That was that was pretty ganga to me.
Um, but, um,
I thought, I thought overall, um, I
will give it, I will watch it again, especially since it's available on Max.
Um, and, uh, again, I can easily watch it again.
I'll, I'll give it another shot, but like from what I saw,
and then after discussing with you guys and everything
um, I
would give it a three and a half, a letterbox three and a half,
three and a half out of five.
I did I did enjoy it.
And
so, yeah, that's my score and I'm sticking to it.
Well, give it another shot because I really think this movie will grow on
you the more you see it, you know, because I think it has a high rewatchability value
you know, considering all the memes, the quotes and stuff.
So definitely give it another shot.
And I honestly, I honestly, Alex
like a perfect movie for Arnold.
Like, I think, I don't know why.
When I watched this movie again, I was like, man, I think Arnold would love this film.
Oh, you know what?
And talking about the dude,
he lived the life that that I, pictured myself,
I mean, uh, 18 year old Arnold, um, how I pictured my life.
I would want to get some sort of income where, uh,
I don't really have to work and all I have to do is just, you know, I can just
smoke weed all day..
That's what we got to sell that pilot.
You know what I'm saying?
Get some royalties off that.
Oh, that pilot.
I thought.
Yeah.
I?
I thought you were been tell me to sell myself.
No, no, no, no.
I would never.
Never let you stoop out with my friends..
you are you don't have a price.
You're What's the word for something that doesn't have a price?
Because it's worth so much more than money?
69 cents?
Oh, no, no, no.
Arnolds Priceless.
Pricel.
Oh, yeah.
Theyitted the other side of this. side.
Hey, Arnold, before we let you go. light special?
Yeah.
Before we let you go, Arnold, we want to get your Z writing.
A Z rating in a new segment.
We like like to call Arnold's Snoo a meter.
So tell us out of on a scale of one.
And remember
the lower on the snooze a meter, the better, the higher on the snoozeometer worse.
So Arnold, give us the snooze score for the Big Lebowski.
If your borderline diabetic,
do not have ice cream before this movie.
Do not, because it'll affect the score.
It won't be a fair score
And I really feel like I didn't play this one fairly.
I gave into it.
I even ate my stepdaughter's leftover ice cream that she couldn't finish.
I just was like, you're not going to eat it?
Okay.
So, but I
would have I would give it a half a Z, a half a Z rating.
Okay.
Originally, it was a one.
but because I doze
off and then I'll rewind it.
And I think for about three hours, it took me about two
and a half hours to get through it through it last night.
And I only got halfway.
So
I was like, tomorrow, this is a tomorrow thing.
So, yeah.
But This is tomorrow Arnold's problem.
Half a Z rating.
That's good.
Thank you.
That was Arnold's news immeter.
Okay, well, thanks for that, Arnold.
Then we have a really quick, just some quick notes from me
that I wrote down here.
I think this is one of those movies that sticks with you.
You know, the first time you' watch it, you might be confused like I was, but
maybe even wondering, like, what is the point to all this?
But I think that's kind of the point at the end of the day.
It's a movie about a laid-back guy who gets dragged into chaos, but never really rises to the occasion.
And yet somehow
you still root for him.
It doesn't really follow traditional plot.
And there's no big character arc.
There's no tidy ending.
It just sort of floats through a weird dreamscape of LA weirdos,
nihilists, porn kings, and bowling alleys.
But underneath all that absurdity is something kind of profound
about letting go and about not needing all the answers about, well, abiding.
It's also just hilarious.
The dialogue is endlessly quotedable.
The characters are instantly memorable.
And every time you revisit it, you notice some n is our a little detail
that that makes the world feel even richer.
So, yeah, it's a movie that holds your hand, that doesn't hold your hand, I should say.
And you kind of just let it wash over you.
It's brilliant in its own sleepy, slacker kind of way
The dude may not be the hero that we're used to, but maybe he's the one that we need.
At the end of the day, as the stranger says, the dude abides, and that's enough.
All right, guys.
Well, I think we did it.
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And really quick, Justin, you got some new ink.
Would you mind showing us your new ink?
I It's on the dick. know?
Oh, what is that, by the way?
It's It's upside down, but it's Sailor Moon.
Oh, that's
Nice.
With me recently, you recently mentioned on our DD episode, how you weren into Sailor Moon back in the day.
Yeah.
And it was cool to be hourly into that sort of thing.
Now you're completely embracing it.
Yeah, I love that.
I'm embracing it.
You freaking weeb.
Yeah.
And that right there is a character arc.
Okay, guys.
Any final thoughts from the gentlemen?
I have something.
Shut the fuck up, Donnie.
made me look it up, but I wanted to see how many times they
said dude in this movie versus dude, where's my car?
So it's funny that, so this movie, they say 160 times and then dude, where's my car?
They only say 128.
It's like,..
That's pretty good.
Interesting, Anything else?
That's it.
I'll shut up.
Oh, no.