In this week's spooky Halloween episode, we dive into the 2024 film *In a Violent Nature*. The story follows the resurrection and rampage of an undead monster awakened in a remote wilderness after a locket is removed from a crumbling fire tower, disturbing the creature’s long-dead corpse and unleashing an iconic new killer. Special guest Donnie Appleseed joins us for the discussion!
This week, we’re bringing the chills in our Halloween episode as we dive deep into the 2024 horror thriller *In a Violent Nature*. The film centers on the terrifying resurrection of an undead monster buried in a remote wilderness. All is quiet until a mysterious locket, long sealed within a collapsed fire tower, is removed, disturbing the monster's rotting corpse. This act sets off a chain of deadly events, unleashing an unstoppable force of rage and revenge across the forest as the creature embarks on a brutal rampage.
*In a Violent Nature* introduces an instantly iconic new horror villain with chilling intensity, delivering a blend of suspense, supernatural terror, and wild landscapes that feels fresh yet classic. To help us break down the film’s scares, symbolism, and blood-soaked twists, we’re joined by special guest Donnie Appleseed, who brings his own insight and horror fandom to the table
This Halloween episode is perfect for fans of horror movies, supernatural thrillers, and suspenseful monster tales. *In a Violent Nature* offers a haunting storyline, unforgettable creature design, and eerie forest settings that will stay with you long after the credits roll. Whether you're drawn to mysterious curses, terrifying undead villains, or a fresh twist on classic horror, this episode has everything horror lovers crave. Don’t miss our in-depth review and discussion as we unpack what makes *In a Violent Nature* the latest must-watch film in horror cinema!
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Mr. ADLT, Adrian Delat.
Here we are on a very twilight kind of evening
talking about in a violent nature, the 2024,
I don't think we've ever done a movie that came out the same year we recorded, have we?
I feel like this is the first time we've done that.
That's very interesting
The 2024 film In a Violent Nature,
the movie is about the enigmatic resurrection, rampage,
and retribution of an undead monster in a remote wilderness
who unleashes an iconic new killer after a locket
is removed from a collapsed fire tower tower
that entombed its rotting corpse Starring people
you've never heard of, written and directed by people who you also probably never heard of, but we'll say their names.
This are Krish Nash is the director of this film
starring Rye Barrett, Andrea Pavlovitch,
Cameron Love, Reese Presley.
In a Violent Nature, that's the film a
man comes back from the dead to retrieve a lot.
That's all he wants.
He's just a man in the world
trying to get his locket back because these snotty little teenagers took it.
You know, you should never take things that aren't yours, but they didn't.
So let's talk about it.
In a violent nature, who hasn't seen this film?
Anybody else?
I know I haven't.
I have not.
No.
I don't think any of us have seen it.
But funny thing is my friend at work, she
really loves horror movies, and she was telling me about this.
She was like, oh, yeah, we went to go see this movie at
the, it was like an indie horror flick
And she told me the whole movie.
Like, like, I just got to tell you.
It's not.
And she like when she I
was listening and then she told me all like the kills and stuff.
And then as I was watching it and I was like, hey, this is that movie.
Yeah.
She didn't give you the elevator pitch.
She gave you the space elevator pitch, you know, just gave you the whole..
Arnold, since you're starting off, let's start with you, tell
me what stood out to you about this movie.
Um.
So, oh, the sound
of walking through leaves or brush now terrifies me.
Also, yeah, like you said.
Yeah.
don't take what's not yours.
Even if it's if it's golden shiny and just hanging there.
Yeah.
Because you never know, someone from the dead might come back and
It'll kill you and turn you into like a human pretzel.
Not the Not the downward dog, right?
Not the down the downward dog.
Right.
Not, I couldn't think of any
of the yoga.'s Pose, but Child Warrior's Pose.
but that girl was missionaryoga.
Yeah.
She was doing yoga
before it being turned into a pretzel.
That was pretty wild.
Like the kill.
That was the best kill.
Yeah, yeah.
So, for context, we're talking about the character in the movie that gets.
This is a slasher movie, right?
It's a slasher movie through and through.
And one of the most standout kills was
this girl doing yoga, which I couldn't fucking believe that scene, honestly.
When I messaged you guys in the discour saying, oh, my fucking God, this movie.
It was after watching that scene.
I couldn't believe it.
What about the scene prior to that?
Wasn't Wasn't there like two girls that liked each other?
And then, I believe they were.
That was one of them.
Yeah, one of them was pulled under and yeah.
Okay.
What about, okay, what is the killer's name?
Johnny or something like that?
Johnny
Okay.
Johnny.
He walks slow.
You can run away from him, right?
But then here he goes.
He's walking into the water.
So, I mean, natally. if
you're going to walk in water, you don't walk the same pace as you normally
do when you're walking, but all of a sudden he walk like would seem
pretty fast and pretty far in a short amount of time.
I think the hand wavy explanation to that is that he's, he's like a supernatural being, right?
So like, he's got powers that enable him to
essentially deny the laws of physics.
But on that logic, I don't
understand why he, that pipe thing, because
the movie opens with a shot of the pipe that's like
in the ground and then like you hear him breathing through it, I guess, and then the pipe then like, I don't remember.
If he's supernatural, why does he need a pipe for air?
He's dead.
He's undead.
Is like a glass pipe?
No, it was I don't know what it was made of.
It was a cracked. always goes a.
They are from the backwoods, you know, so they were probably making a meth as well.
That would be funny if it was a wood crack pipe.
The crack pipe.
If it was a crack pipe, wouldn't he be running the whole time?
It's a generational crack pipe.
It's an heirloom.
Heirloom, yeah.
But yeah, I think that's why Arnold, I think, because he's
a magic, undead zombie dude.
Yeah.
I have a question for that later on in in
the show, but I want to get through this and then, yeah.
Arnold, you're not much of a horror movie fan in general, right?
Like, you don't watch a lot of horror, right?
I do watch a lot of horror movies.
Okay.
What did this movie remind you of?
He say the horror, not horror.
Yeah. horror.
Not horror movies.
I mean, I do, yeah, especially.
Arnold the original Hk Tua, by the way.
No, I'm kidding.
I do watch occasionally.
It's because my wife, she doesn't really like to watch them.
And so then we watch, you know, a lot of Beverly Hills.
a lot of like, you know, other shows.
Beverly Hills 902100.
Not me. you.
No, but but what did this movie remind you of?
Like, what other horror movies would you, did it remind you of any other horror movies?
Like, I'm curious if you
picked up on anything.
Oh, I mean, just because Michael Myers,
you know, he's he goes that face, but he walks a little bit faster.
This guy, Johnny, he walks probably like 1.
5 miles per hour and Michael Myers is probably like 2.
2.4 miles per hour.
Yeah.
How do you measure that distance?
Like, that pace?
How do you measure that hornld?
Well, he had he had his handy dandy pocket protector, right?
Arnold.
With a big green crayon.
You see a knee screen.
It's all covered in crayon marks.
Jeez.
I used technology, AI?
AI?
GP I asked Chat GPT.
How fast is I
on the screen of the approximate distance and
measure how fast.
Yeah.
I feel like AI means artificial intelligence, not anal intensity.
Anal intensity.
I feel like this is this movie is a great example of
like the behind the scenes of what we don't get to see.
Like, how does Jason and Michael Myers
and hell, we'll say even Freddy Krueger show up behind you all the time?
Freddy has his own little magical thing going on.
But, you know, this kind of gives
a good, like idea of, okay,
maybe, maybe he can keep it because everybody, everybody's always fucking falling.
Yeah.
Why are you falling all the time?
Why is everybody falling?
Because they're dumb.
They're all dumb.
I really like that aspect of it, that the most of the movie was from the perspective of the killer.
I can't think of any other horror movies where
the majority of the perspective is from the killer's perspective.
Are there any other.
Justin, you're our resident horror fan.
Are there any other horror horror movies like that, where we mostly see it from the bad guy's point of view?
No, not.
There may be a couple that aren't coming to my mind at
the Creone time, but there are a few movies that have like attempted
a thing in a way.
More than more than anything, like, I would
say like the you know, found footage horror.
I feel like there's like a couple of movies out there where it's like,
oh, the person holding the camera was the villain all along or something like that.
Like in the movie, um, was it creep or whatever?
I mean, even though it starts off with like the person that's
holding the camera visiting him or whatever, um, but he
ends up being the one, like with the videotapes and stuff like that is.
It's, it's pretty, pretty weird.
But this is the first time where we actually get like a full on
yes, we're going to show you every step of
the way how this guy catches
up to everybody and it just ultimately,
he just, he takes his time and it's
kind of like, kind of like bird watching.
That's kind of what this reminds me of.
It's like, he's taking his time, you know, everyone
is having a little like fit about what's happening and losing their minds.
And, and it like, like tortoise in the hairstyle stuff.
It's like, yeah, he's slow, but, you know, he keeps going.
He doesn't stop
He'll get you.
He'll get you.
I really did appreciate that aspect of it because I can't
think of any other horror movies where they do that where we see it from the killer's perspective, but I also really enjoyed
that there was no music in this movie.
It was all the sound design was really great.
Like Hold on.
I will say that like I like what they did as
far as like like the minimal soundtrack of it.
Like remember when they he kills the first guy, right?
And he's wearing the headphones, the Walkman.
And it becomes this, he's playing the music at the
regular speed, but then as he's dragging him to
the place and like going to chop him up and stuff like
that, the battery starts to die
And so it becomes that fast paced,
fun song song that he's hearing starts to slow down and becomes
eeri ear and eeri because of the battery dying.
And so it becomes this like sort of like
soundtrack that like, like an
unintentional soundtrack, almost.
I thought that was really cool.
I thought that was great, too.
Honest They call that diaggetic music, by the way.
Digetic.
I I appreciate the uh, um, like,
even with that slight music aside, um, I
really enjoyed the ambient noise of like nature
Yeah.
And honestly, I just want to like kind of throw the pun in there.
It's like the movie's called In a Violent Nature.
And if you think about it, there's like lots of violence in this nature going on.
Let me ask you guys this.
Would a woman choose Johnny or the bear?
I feel like they'd still choose.
I think they still choose the bear.
The bear, yeah, the bear.
Wait, Was there a bear?
Arnold, You're the bear.
No, no, no.
bear No, Arnold will be an otter, I think.
A o.
An Otter.
Arnold will be a seal because he doesn't have a bear a seal.
Oh, the band?
Yeah.
You mean the singer?
The singer?
The singer.
Portugal?
Oh man?
Seven Seal.
Anyway.
Yeah.
But staying on topic.
Let's talk it because there's so much to get into with this movie.
Let's go, Donnie, let's go to you.
Do you watch horror movies?
Did you like this movie?
What stood out to you?
Yeah, I do watch horror movies.
I wouldn't say I'm like a big horror fan, but it's
definitely one of my top favorite typeses of movies.
What stood out as some of the things that you guys already mentioned,
the lack of a soundtrack, which for me usually helps to move the
film forward, but in this case, it really worked that they didn't have any
I really appreciated the point of view, also mentioned Justin had mentioned that.
It kind of reminded me of a different point of
view, but remember how Blair Witch was shot and how successful that was.
And so I don't know if that was like, if there was any influence
there, but just to give it a fresh take on a slasher film, I thought it was, that was really interesting.
It didn't remind me of any other horror movies
but what it did remind me of a lot was like Mortal Kombat.
Like it wasn't the best horror movie, right?
But like the kills were amazing.
And so I don't know.
I can compare it to like a Street Fighter versus Mortal Kombat where I love Street Fighter
and it's like the gameplay was better in Street Fighter, but you play Mortal Kombat for the kills.
I don't know if that I don't know if that's still true today.
I mean, Mortal Kombat's came a long way, but that's what it reminded me of.
Yeah, I think you're referring mostly to the yoga girl.
Yeah, yeah.
They just all got better.
Like, you know I get what you're talking about because like
in Mortal Kombat, they have like unique kills, fatalities, um, deaths and things like that.
And I feel although, like that one particular
kill was pretty brutal, I was surprised myself.
I was like, my mouth was open.
I was like, oh, fuck, I've never seen some shit like this before.
I was like, he really went for it.
But, like the other kills, I feel like were respectable.
I actually really liked the
placement of where they put that main kill at.
I feel like that was like beautifully shot
like, out of everything that was going on.
Like it's like they like invested all of
their time into this one specific kill.
But I feel like it was a good, from that point on, it was like a good
pacing because imagine that kill coming in after like very end of the movie.
I feel like it would have thrown off the balance because
like, again, like there's a lot of walking.
There's a lot of like, um silence.
There's a lot of just like, in my opinion,
like some, there's some filler in there and it's it's kind
of just, it just drags along, no pun intended.
But
but I feel like the kill pacing is
where it hits its mark the most for me at
least, because you have a kill and then you have some
more like environ environmental story building.
And you're kind of like learning a little bit more about this character.
Even though nothing is really said, you kind of get an idea
of like who who Johnny is. especially
when he gets to where he smashes
open and gets his like helmet for the first time or his little fireman.
I really like that scene.
That was D's the fireman's mask.
That was wonderful.
I really liked like.
That felt like a superhero movie moment almost.
And then he throws the body into it?
Yeah.
He does.
I was going to say, like that that's like where
it becomes he becomes an iconic sort
of a possible iconic horror
creatureature, you know?
Like the horror icon, you know, when he dons the mask,
because like from that point, from that point on, you,
you don't see his face until he like, you
have that moment when he s sitting against the tree.
But then he like, he like, he's looking at the car
and he's playing with it, and then he gets like pulled back into like what he has to do.
And in a sense, like for me, like that whole, that whole, this whole movie, I felt
way more empathy for Johnny
because you got these stupid fuckabouts.
And this guy, he's just like, he's just like trying to be like,
you know, he just wants his, his heirloom back,
the locket that his mom gave him, right?
And he got this, these stupid dumbass
kids who are just like, doing whatever they want.
They're doing whatever Gen Z's do.
No offense to Gen Zers, but you guys can be
fuck about like us when we were kids.
But, like,
it was just like this thing where these kids just ruined. his day, basically.
He was nappy.
He was like fucking fine.
He was chilling.
He was just chilling under the leaves, like
like smelling his locket or whatever.
Yeah, smoking crack or whatever.
Maybe they' like the ranger is feeding him meth
crystals down the pipe every once in a while.
But, you know, it's like that dude, he's just in there, like,
chilling, and then these kids stealing his fucking locket.
And like, he just wants it back.
And you just rekindled this whole, like fury in
this guy and he's now he's just traumatized and like, he's he's triggered and he's like,
and he's he's doing what he only the only thing he knows
is to kill all these people because, you
know, like he's traumatized from like a lot of stuff that he he
was experiencing in his old past life.
He was like murdered, you know?
And like
Yeah.
I felt bad.
I actually felt bad for Johnny.
And I was like rooting for him throughout the whole film.
I was like, hell yeah, dude, get those fucking dumbasses.
I hated the teenage characters.
I hated the dialogue between them.
The dialogue.
They deserveerve every kill that they got.
You know, what comes to mind suddenly, and
I don't know if you guys seen this movie, you probably have, but now that
I'm thinking about it, this movie kind of sort
of reminds me of like Tucker and Dale versus Evil in a way.
I've seen that.
Yeah, that that movie is kind of like similar in a way.
It's more comedy than horror, but like
the teenagers like act like a certain way.
They're completely annoying and just like, you will just
want them to die because of reasons.
I'm not going to spoil the movie, but if y'all
get a chance to watch Tucker and Dale vs Evil.
That one is, it's funny, and honestly,
the kills in that movie is pretty good, too.
I's been on my queue for quite some time.
I still need to watch that.
It's good.
Yeah, it's good.
That's a good one.
Johnny's pretty slick.
Remember the part where the park Ranganger, he's like, he's got the gun.
He's like, oh, okay, he's holding it down.
I's like, we're going to switch
all right?
On the count of three and then that split second, that's when he staps a gun.
He was
saving all his speed for that for that moment.
I like that sort of.
Yeah.
That was kind of a jump scare in and of itself because I knew something was going to happen, and then that happened.
I was like, oh, shit.
That's great. slick.
Yeah, that was great.
So one thing I noticed, this
movie was shot in a 4x3 aspect ratos.
Yeah, kind of a vintage.
What does that mean?
Yeah.
Also, the most movies are widcreened.
This was like a square.
Yeah.
Like kind of like TV
old TVs used to be square.
Reminiscent of old, like, Friday to 13th movies and things like that.
I know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was getting Camp Crystal Lake vibes, you know,
Jason Vorkes vibes, fucking Leatherface.
Yeah.
A little bit of Michael Myers in there with the way he like, he gets shot
and then he just like sits up like straight
And then I was definitely getting, yeah,
like a lot of Jason Vorthe's leatherface-ish kind
of vibes from this movie, but I really, I really liked the way that they shot it.
And the fact that it was like slow moving
shots, like a lot of horror movies
seem to be very fast, like quickly edited and stuff.
But this movie really took its time and it really built up the tension, I think, throughout.
A lot of walking in it.
A lot of walking.
But, but honestly, I think, I think the walking works because like it's like such a,
it's he's not even being threatened.
You're just seeing a dead zombie guy walking around. and it's like, oh, like you''re wondering like, who's going to kill next?
What's he going to do next?
I thought it was funny when he when he fucking put the stick in the horn to get that tongk.
Yeah.
You know?
And he just like walked right around the house because he knew they're going to come out, they're going to come out and they then boom..
I thought that was great.
Like that was such a.
And then and then when the one when he throws the ax
when the guys are off camera, he throws the fucking ax and he gets in the guy right in the back of the head.
First of all, when he threw the ax, I thought that was weird.
I was like, why is he throwing the ax out of the boy like 50 feet away?
And then the camera pans over and the guy, he got him right in the hat.
I'm like, oh, Johnny's got a great aim, man.
Johnny come lately.
No, Johnny knows how to fucking aim.
And then he fucking grabs that boulder and he just drops a couple of guy's head.
That was wild.
That was fucking great.
I love that.
That was such a good killer. hunter.
He's a killer.
He's precise.
He's precise.
I didn't like how it was clipped, though.
Like when he walks, you know how it's like, it looked like it was breaking off.
Yeah.
It was just bothering me.
I understand that the purp of it.
Or like, no, you know how it while he's walking?
Yeah, the quick cuts.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Just so I get the whole time lapse thing and I get the purpose, but it
just it just like, I thought it was like, it interrupted the flow for the movie for me.
That's a good point.
I didn't I noticed that at the very beginning when he first kills
the the guy in the fucking crack house or whatever.
Yeah.
That was not a crack house, but it was just like, whoever that guy was.
The shack.
The shack.
I noticed those quick cuts.
I was like, no, don't cut.
Just stay on him.
It's better if you stay on him.
You're only saving like a few seconds.
Come on.
Yeah.
Yeah, maybe I think the
way that this movie feels to me is kind of like a lot of it seemed
imp improvised in
certain ways, especially with the way that they filmed it.
Like, because like I had an issue with the quick cuts too.
I was like, yeah, I was like, oh, that's kind of like jarring a little bit.
I felt that they
could have easily just be like, you know what, if you're going to cut it, just cut it
to, you know, a point in time.
You know, what we understand it's going to take a long time for him to get there.
So, I mean, I feel like you could have edited that a
little bit more seamlessly to kind of build up
that first kill in particular, or
not even first kill, that that was like the second or third
kill or whatever.
But I felt like that was like the moment time where it was like he
was like super close to his goal and then it just
immediately got away from him.
Hey, but shout out to the caraman, huh?
He's just getting his steps in on this movie because all those long, drawn out shots.
Yeah.
But here's what one of the things I didn't like.
I that was really stupid was the fucking the sheriff, the ranger guy.
Yeah.
That long ass death of his.
Like he first he cuts his hand off with the
wood cutter machine.
Yeah.
And then he's like, uh, let me just let me cut his head off.
Just cut his head off from the get-o.
Why are you wasting cutting his hand off?
The guy's fucking paralyzed pretty much.
Right.
Well, Here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
Like, the reason I like to cut heads off.
Well, the reason why he takes his time with the Ranger
is he's taking his time with him because he's
savoring the vengeance.
Because that kill is more of a vengeance kill than anything else else.
It's a very personal because they have history together.
That's right.
That's right..
So like he's savoring
torturing him, having him feel the pain, even though his back
is broken or doesn't he get like, isn't he like breaks his spine.
Yeah, he breaks his spine.
And so he's like, he's letting him see all this stuff.
He could like, he's experiencing it like visually.
And so it's like an emotional like sort of thing
He's seeing like getting his inflims cut off.
He's he's he's seeing all this like nasty,
brutal things happening to him, but he can't do a thing about it.
And that's Johnny savoring that moment.
I get that.
I feel like that's kind of going to be a setup for a prequel watch.
It's going to be it's going to be between the Ranger and Johnny.
because he's like, we've done this before.
I've put you down before or whatever.
Yeah.
He said, I was like, that's total prequel Bay right there.
You know we're going to get a prequel.
Horror movies always do that.
They'll make like three of them and they're like, okay, let's go back
before the first movie.
Like 30 years later.
Because I know that they are currently developing in a violent nature too.
There you go.
There you go.
We're going to get part two, part three.
And that's what I was saying.
Like, this is completely set up for
like an iconic horror. franchise?
franchise.
You got the mask.
You got the like the way it's set up.
Okay, so I know you guys were like talking about the pacing of the film.
Which I like.
Yeah.
It's it's it goes fast and slow
Yeah.
Like, it's kind of like, you know, like when you're listening
to like Nirvana. smells like.
What about Radiohead?
They do that too.
They do that too.
Like all those 90s bands, dude, like Pearl Jam, all them.
Smashing Punkkin.
Flo anyways.
Even 50 Cent Like a build-up.
Yeah, and it's also a very
It's It's also a very, what do you call it?
artouse style.
Yeah, it was very art house style was.
Because there was this sort of like the long long drawn up.
Like, so
I know you guys, I know Jim Jarmouche, you know, the director of, Ghost Dog.
He's kind of like a polarizing director for this group.
But that's his style.
That's like this push and pull
And then also you it's you could also tell
there's influence of like how Tarantino
he views violence.
It's, when he has violence on
screen, it's it takes a long time to get to it.
But once you get to it, it's just like just brutal.
And then it's that's it.
And then for a long time.
Cathic, I think.
Yeah, it's it's It's a long while before you see it anymore.
And it's's brutal in that moment.
And then, and then, you know, and so it's
kind of like, again, like that start and stop push and pull
sort of thing that like, you know, I was describing with music
it's, that's just how, you know, how that art.
It's like a mixture of all that arts, artthouse style and like
in the 90s indie from like Jim Jarouche and, and Tarantino did things.
And even Robert Rodriguez, you know?
Yeah.
I get what you're saying.
But I will say, yeah, now that
you explain it that way, I guess you could justify that scene a little
bit more, because that did feel very y houseousy, like laying him down.
And he's also very, he also kind of carefully laid him down..
I don't I don't know if that was intentional or not.
It just felt like he sort of, you know,
for a fucking undead killer, he like kind of carefully laid him down to like, oh, here's what I'm going to fucking do.
And then he tests out the machine by splitting a log for.
You just have to make sure it works still.
Oh, I thought he..
You know what I showing him.
You know what I like the most about that scene where he's
like taking his time killing him is how
like, how seemamless
it is with the special effects because that
shit like was like, I was like, wow, man.
Like I was trying to like pick and see like where
the special effects came in and I'm like, that one in particular.
I feel like they took their time because they spent a lot of time on
the prosthetics or whatever it was because
it was seamless like.
Like I was like, man, that like could actually be his arm.
It kind of made me uncomfortable, to be honest.
I was like, damn, this guy is like literally getting hacked up in front of my face.
Uh, you know, No, but the special effects, especially in
that scene and among other kill scenes, uh, were
glorious and fantastic.
You can kind of, like earlier on in the movie, you can kind of
tell you're like, oh, okay, you know, hey, this is, you know,
classic fake horror killing and dismemberment and things like that.
But I feel like the log scene in particular, was
like, it was kind of beautifully done as far as the special effects go.
I couldn't I couldn't really tell.
It was it was it was so seamless and so smooth how it all happened.
So I definitely respect the team for that.
My other favorite kill was the guy that came on behind him.
I was like, you ugly motherfucker..
And he just just fucking bashes his face in
and then just continues bashing him, bashing him in.
Yeah.
That was, that was so like, not
out of left field, but it felt kind of abrupt, like in a good way.
Oh, I was not expecting them to just turn around and just
just fucking bash his face in with the ax and I want to pose a question.
So since we're breaking down
like kills and stuff like that, besides the
obvious yoga kill, what are some of
your guys' favorite like kills in the movie
In this movie?
Yeah.
I mean, honestly, the first
guy, the first guy that goes out to take a piss or whatever or smoke or
whatever, that was fucking brutal..
That really fucked me up.
That was a good start off.
The the girl in the lake, that was.., that was just very pretty.
Did he just drowned her?
How did she die again?
I thought he was going to like do more.
He just kind of drowned her, let her bob up and down, dead.
The yoga kill, that's the main one.
Was she really bobbing her head up and down?
She was bobbing a lot of things up and down, Arnold.
Mostly for apples.
Mostly for apples, yeah.
That was a very ad Jason kill, right?
Like Jason Or even Jaws, you know, whoever.
I mean, it's it's definitely like a,
what's like, homage kill, if you think about it.
It is.
Paying homage to like the.
I feel like this whole movie is like a love letter to that kind of.
Friday the 13th icon.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Speaking of which, the other thing that gave me Friday the 13th
vibes was the fucking old lady at the end that picks up the girl that the one is the one girl that escaped.
I thought something was in..
First of all, I thought something was going to happen with that scene.
There was so much tension and then nothing happens.
I know.
I was paranoid.
Her whole monologue was kind of, I don't know.
Maybe you guys can fill me in because I didn't really get the point of her entire monologue.
She was just talking and talking and talking about the fucking bear and all that shit.
I was like, what is she is they talking about?
I think she was like trying to
be sympathetic to a situation
that she didn't particularly know anything about..
I mean, I often find myself doing that in
real life when I'm talking to people and they're having like a hard time.
What is this person talking about right now?
I feel like she was just trying to share an
experience about her husband in particular an anecdote.
Yeah, like kind of sort of relating to the situation, possibly
to make her feel better because she's obviously distraught about everything's happened.
I mean, you if all of your best friends were brutally
murdered in the woods by some crazy person, I'm assuming you would not come out of
as, I mean, if you did, you're a psychopath.
But hey, you know.
See, I was expecting that they were to be like a Mrs.
Voorhees type of character, but they didn't didn't.
To be fair, though, like she didn't know what was going on.
She just kind of picked up this girl who, like
so like, she assumed it was an animal because even she,
the girl that she picked up said it was an animal. kind of animal.
And so it's kind of like, okay, she doesn't know what it was.
And so like
I think her empathy, I think the whole point of that
one was just to kind of, it
sums up the whole title of the film in a violent nature.
Things are things
are relatable in a sense, and it's
like a violent nature and how traumatic it could be.
You know what I mean?
Like it's it's not something that like,
yes,, a bear attack is a violent nature and a violent nature
Same thing with Johnny coming after you with
like Aries, all sorts of like sharp objectss.
But it's, you know, I think what it was was just
kind of like to kind of sum
up the whole film, but also kind of like
also be like if you're in Matt Girl's head that
she picked up, you don't understand what I went through.
You're saying all this stuff.
Yes, that's violent.
But I can't you
can only imagine what I've been through.
It's uncomprehensible to somebody that doesn't know anything about what's happening
Yeah.
See, somebody on Reddit said that they thought their theory
and their head theory was that she was like, she knew about
Johnny, but she's kind of like the keeper of that secret in that town.
So she was just talking like in code in a way.
Like that whole bear story was actually an analogy for
for Johnny.
Johnny is the bear. is the bear.
Quote unquote.
But that's just the one on Reddit steering, you know.
Again, that's that could be setting up for part two.
Yeah.
I mean, that's's.
I think so.
Mrs. Voorhees of this universe.
Who knows?
Could be.
And I mean, that's the whole thing.
Could be.
They probably knew
that they had what they had.
Or and even if they didn't know, they wanted to set
up something for future projects You know what I mean?
Correct me if I'm wrong.
That's smart.
Yeah, that's very smart.
Let's correct you.
When they pulled over, remember she saw her leg and was like, oh my gosh, okay.
We got like the lady pulls over and she's like, we got to stop this.
I was on the edge of my seat.
Yeah.
Same.
Did they make the sound of like walking through through
the brushes that like she heard it or something?
Or I don't remember.
For some.
I don't know if it was sound, but the girl stares up in the forest fucking
nervous as fuck, like she's expecting to see.
And even I was watching the shot, I was like, he's going to be there somewhere
in the fucking leaves and shit.
I'm thinking like, okay, yeah, they must have been driving at least
45 miles per hour, or at least 30 miles per hour.
Did you measure that too, with your stethoscope?
Yes.cope. caught up real quick.
He traveled under the ground or something, took the tunnel and,
you know, hit speed pipe real quick and then all of a sudden, you die.
This, is my bloody vine.
I honestly thought she was going to bring him back.
I thought she was going to bring him back to the forest, like, to the same spot or bring her back to the same spot.
I was expecting something.
That's what I was saying that There's so much tension throughout this whole movie.
You're like, oh, what's going to happen?
He's going to, you know, chop her and kill her or kill the old lady or both of them.
I was expecting something.
You know what I liked about that, though, is how they
like switched it up, though, at the end there.
They went went from like the perspective of
the killer and then like, and then we got her like side perspective of the story.
I like that switch up at the end there because then I liked it too.
And Johnny actually had a happy ending.
I feel like the way they framed it at the end, Johnny
actually like he gets his locket back and then you don't see him, but the locket's gone from where she left it.
And then he is sort of implies that, oh, Johnny just kind of went back
to where he came from.
Presumably.
Presumably.
Because, maybe maybe he didn't take the locket.
Maybe he's after somebody else.
Maybe some other. captures someone's soul in that locket, you're saying?
I don't know.
I'm just making shit up at this point.
It seemed like a happy
ending for for a good old Johnny.
But
I'm sure we'll see him again.
Why was the locket hanging there to begin with in the first shot of the movie?
I feel like it was it.
Well, I think it was like sort of that sort of like a
what do you call it?
A sigil kind of like the silence people.
Yeah.
You know?
Like what you would do is like, you use that as like
a run of some sort to like, you, okay, you have it here.
You're resting.
Don't move.
Don't go anywhere.
It's like, you know.
rich stuff, yeah.
Yeah, like a seal.
The 10th sequel of this series should be Johnny in Space.
It just fucking chilling.
Killing sexy science co-heads in a spaceship.
You know what I mean?
You know, you know what's crazy?
I was expecting a sex scene where somebody dies, but it doesn't follow your
typical tropes from.
That's true.
Yeah.
So I was like, oh, if you had sex dies
Almost.
The water kind of doesn't.
I think they like.
I think they kind of like take the
tropes, but do their own twist.
You know?
I like thoseions.
Yeah.
That was super refreshing, you know?
Because you're almost expecting it.
Yeah.
I'm going to go stretch out.
Maybe you can go stretch me out after.
I was like, who wrote this?
Arnold might this script?
Arnold?
Arnold, what's going on on?
You doing yoga.
Well, there.
There was that scene where it's like, like, oh, yeah,
they're going to go have like angry sex, but then they were just angry at each other and then they didn't have sex.
So I was like, oh, okay, that's pretty different.
I was expecting them to be like, oh, okay, you know,
anger sex.
Why were 80s slashing movies so obsessed with teenagers having sex?
That's like low- creepy Because sex sells, especially back in the day.
That's what dural people in the theater.
Oh my God, did you see what's her name's boobs are shown in that movie?
That was kind of like just like that teenager
type of thing to get people to come to the theater.
Yeah.
There was an article right now that says that Gen Z doesn't want sex in their movies anymore.
They're like, no, no more sex.
That whole thing was in the 80s,
that was it was also cautionary tales.
Yeah, that tale I mean?
I mean, yeah, Sex cells, but it was also cautionary tale.
In the woods you're going to get killed by a.
Exactly.
That's how it always is.
But, you know, the the
the whole ghost story of like two people
having sex in a car and you see her here, like, like something
scraping the window and like, that whole like, like ghost ghost story.
You've heard like a million of those stories, right?
And it's like the cautionary tale.
It's like, oh, don't go doing that.
That whole thing Yeah, that's true.
What I like about the horror genre is that they really lean into
all the horror tropes unapologetically.
You know, like this one really lean into a lot of those tropes.
And I think it works, you know, I think when you lean into it, you know.
The dialogue was terrible, though.
I hated the fucking.
Oh, the dialogue was absolutely gone.
It was so bad.
That's a part of the teen Kemppe movies, right?
Yeah. horrible.
It was part for the course, I think.
That's what I was thinking.
I was like, am I being too harsh because it is a slasher.
No, I I've got a question that like, I wanted to pose like earlier on.
I don't want to like, like put it off too long.
It was it is very like this Halloween vibe
that we're like kind of going for for spooky.
Well, we're at the end of spooky season.
But depending on how next month goes, it might be spooky season for the rest of our lives.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
Who wants scared now.
Oh my gosh.
But anyways, so
I saw I recently saw this video on Instagram and it was talking about ghosts, right?
And how in films, in
movies, you always see the we
want answers image of a ghost as like transparent
you know?
And that's a very recent thing.
It was not, it's not something
that's been told culturally throughout the ages.
It's very like, I think it was like the 1900s where the transparent ghost
was something of like the late 1800s,
early 1900s where they had this, it
was pre it's a precursor to the
moving picture and what they were able to do.
It was like, I can't remember what they thought it was like Phantasmagoria
is the name of the shows, but what it was
is these people were gather and they developed this
thing that would project an image onto a screen.
Pepper's good.
No, it's not that.
It's just like a projeion projection.
Oh, okay.
Pepperurtis Ghost is like the actual animation of it all.
But this is just it's not moving.
It's just like, oh, the easiest images to tell a story.
But because of the translucency
of it all, it made it look like this
that you could put your hands or whatever or whatever.
And that's where like in culture, it ghosts become this thing.
Because before that, ghosts were not that way.
They became, they were like full-figured.
They were like, they were just like you and me.
sometimes would appear as animals
and then they would disappear.
But they weren't like, transparent and
they proofing in the air or even floating.
They were like, and me.
And so what would happen is like in culture, like
demon, like like this whole idea of like ghosts were like they would typically like
ghosts would be appear in bodily form, like taking the form of somebody that we know.
And they would be speaking through him.
So my question is, is Johnny a ghost
or is he a monster?
I think I think he's like a demon zombie type of thing.
I think he He's a monster, for sure.
He's some kind of undead zombie demon hy.
He may not a demon, but.
I would consider it still to be because
he's not fully a zombie, though, right?
Because zombies just, they just, uh, brain.
Yeah, their minds very intentional does.
Well, okay.
Brains is offensive, sir.
To the zombie genre.
All right.
That was the Brains thing comes from spoof movies that did zombies.
Get your face straight, you racist.
I'm going to say he's a monster.
However, I would say he's a paranormal monster monster.
So, I mean, and paranormal can mean just about anything.
Like, it could be a ghosts.
It could be, Kukuey.
It could be skinwalkers, aliens and things like that.
So I would consider I would consider
them to be kind of like a paranormal monster type of deal.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's well.
So like, I would say he, like, in my opinion, I think he's a ghost
taking form, like possessing his own previous body.
You know what I'm saying?
Like it's, like, Oh, yeah.
Like Vend like, like, he could take any form if he wanted to.
Like, but this is the.
I just thought he was like Jason Vorges, like kind of an un.
I mean, Jason Vorges could be like a ghost too..
Like, he's just thinking, like, yeah, he's repossessing his own body
You know what I mean?
What about Michael Myers?
Michael Myers could be.
But here the thing.s So
demonic possession is something like that's the Monica.
It has no past memories of
the that person's that they're possessing.
Because they're Theements that don't come from.
Yeah, they just mischief.
And they' stuff like that.
Whereas like a ghost has
I mean, it's funny.
I'm watching what we do in the Shadows.
And yeah, you know, Nadia's doll, you know?
Yeah.
The spirit possesses the doll, right?
But it stays around because they have unfinished business.
So Johnny's character
has unfinished business.
Whereas a demon is just there out to cause chaos and mischief.
Chucky.
Childsp.
Oh, Oh, did you know that today's?
I mean, the guy. possesses the doll,
he's still out for vengeance, and he goes and tries to murder the little boy.
So he could become human again.
That's why, yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
Happy national.istic.
Today's national what day?
Chuckucky Day.
Chucky the Killer Do Day.
Oh, interesting.
Oh, wow..
Oh, those movies scared the shit out of me when I was a kid, man.
Oh, I hated those.
I didn't hate them.
I hated being scared by them.
Yeah.
Yeah, I always thought that they were going to come running through the room
Chuckucky or Uncle Myeyer.
Do you guys remember, not to stray to too far off topic,
but do you guys remember the trilogy of Terror?
No.
That sounds so familiar.
I feel like I feel like I'm the only one that watched that shit.
So it's an anthology or a trilogy series of like horror shorts.
And at the end of each of these
horror anthologies, they
have like a little tiki guy that is
like possessed or whatever and he comes to life and then he like stabs
everybody. and he's like, he's like way smaller than Chucky.
He's like that tall and he goes around and goes, ah, and stabs everybody in the ankle and everything.
Yeah, there's like, I think there's like three different anthology movies, but that's whatever.
Anyway.
This sounds like one of the short stories from Creepshow.
Do you guys remember that?
It was like, I greatly remember Creepshow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There was the one where it was like a a little figure that came back and killed me.
Oh, yeah.
I think Justin, I think you and I watched Creepshow at your house like years ago.
We did.
Who's watched Night Gallery?
Night Gallery Gallery was fucking great..
I love that one.
I' familiar with Icer to Twilight Zone?
It was actually after Twilight Zone.
Okay.
The guy that rode Twilight Zone, what's his name?
name.
Ron Sterling, he made Night Gallery, which that came after.
And
that was a really, was it was a lot short-lived.
It was much more shortter than Twilight Zone, was,
I thought I did see Trilogy of Horrors, but no, it was the Marathon of Hors.
Yeah.
Marathon of Horrors, Arnold?
Yeah Yeah.
So On TBS.
I'm going to pose another question.
OnBS, yeah.
Real quick.
Because, you know, I kind of got inspired by it.
So even though we were breaking down like our favorite kills,
what's your favorite kill in a horror movie just
ever, if you can think of it off the top of your head?
Ooh, man.
Oh, man, I can't hear you.
I mean, honestly, the Shining, Shining for me is,
to me, is one of the best horror movies ever made, if not the best horror movie ever made.
And, there's not even that many
like actual deaths at that movie per se.
Is there?
I mean, he kills he kills Scatman Cruthers in the end.
Yeah.
Right?
And then, um, I don't know. that maybe you're asking about specific deaths, so yeah.
I'm trying to think of what specific.
That one doesn't really have
Yeah, that's not, that's not a great example.
Let's cut that out.
No, what's, what, The Shining's still a great movie.
One that really stuck with me was there was a sawaw movie.
And I don't know.
Would you, would you, oh, if we kind of had this?
It was like 10 sawaw movies.
And I've seen them all.
They're They're more like gory.
Right.
Yeah, that's gre porn.
I like the first Saw movie.
I think that one's still the best
Well, there was one.
I remember.
It was almost like.
You guys ever use a the old school juice man juicer?
No.
Where.
We was pretty much like a.
I mean, the motor turns on and it has a bl.
It's a centrifuge, basically.
Arnold, did you buy that in the Beyond section of Bedbath and Beyond back in the day?
Yeah, we did get it at Bed Bath and Beyond.
Yeah.
Bed Bath Beyond and Body Works.
BBW?
Yeah.
You know what that one is.
Yeah, I'm not sure.
I think we actually ordered it live on TV with The Juice Man.
With the juice.
With his big old eyebrows.
With his big old eyebrows.
Sh Shout out to 2J Cordage.
RIPJ Cordage.
Yeah.
Well, basically, that's what happened to a person in the movie.
They just like got juiced.
And then like the you get juiced.
The liquid went one way and and then like all the roughage just went the other way.
I'll have to think about that, though, Justin, because I'm thinking about.
I got one.
I'll tell you one of my favorite ones is go for it. is from
Tox Avenger. when
they're like, I think that the bad guy is like
like like chasing after some people and there's a guy in the gym and he's
working out and he drops the weight onto the
guy's face and it smashes.
And what I love about what I love about this film,
and that is like, you could tell it's like there's so much almost trauma
influence as well.
Like a lot of the practical special effects,
it's very like, they have modern techniques to kind
of mask it better, but like you can tell the bodies are all like dummies.
They're like super, like floppy, you know?
And like, they're that's what they do in Troma films.
Like they're like super floppy, but like, they cut the things.
Like that whole scene
like how they filmed it in in that in Toxic Avenger
when they dropped the weight on the guy guy's head.
It's not a weight.
You know how like they have those like the circuit training where you
have to put the peg into the thing and then they have that little pole
that like where the peg goes into and it has like all the different holes.
So there's it becomes like a spike.
The guy bad guy pushes the guy's head underneath the
spike and he drops it and it like smashes the guy's head.
But what they did was they carved out, they took a watermelon
and they carved out the insides and they filled it with raspberry jelly.
And then like as soon as they like they
have it a thing and they do it and they cut and so they
cut it to where like it's almost close and then they
they finish the shot with the
watermelon, but it's just up in like awake.
And like and it just smashes the watermelon and it just
I don't know.
Like that reminds me of when Johnny smashes the guy's head with the rock.
You know, it's like totally like, this is this is obviously
influence from traa, you know?
No, that's horrible.
Yeah.
Have you guys ever seen the videos of, I mean, I mean, this is probably
Faces of death?
The second leading up to it.
I mean, the person doesn't die, but they might as well die.
But where like somebody's like benching and then the spotter
pulls down their bench and then
sits on their face.
I think.
That's horrific.
That's so hard.
That's real life.
That's real life stuff right.
to watch you down, you saying?
Yeah,, yeah.
You know, for me, when Justin's asking that question, it's like, what
stuck with me or what, like was the most disturbing to me?
And it is actually a movie that Justin introduced me to recently.
It was Midsomore.
Oh.
Yeah.
So right there when they were on the cliff and,
you know, that ritual kill, like that, that was, yeah, that was very,
Which one again?
Yeah.
Midsummer.
When was it again?
Midsummer.
Oh, Midsom..
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cliff scene in that movie with the rocks and everything. the hammer and yeah.
Well, now that you remember Midsom, I got to talk about hereereditary, because that movie fucked me up..
I haven't seen that one yet.
Oh, yeah.
Her head fucking gets lobbed off on the telephone pool.
Oh, my God, dude.
And then they cut to her head later?
Fuck that.
It's
Yeah.
Both of those movies are so fucked up, but they're so good.
I like the music in Heartone.
Yeah, me too.
Donnie, you got to watch that one for sure.
We'll watch it together.
Every movie.
You told me about that.
It's such a good movie.
I just want to stare at you while you watch it.
Anyway.
What?
That was like the beginning.
You got to pay for that, my friend.
Yeah.
I' close door.
I was to see you.
My favorite,
mine's a little bit of a, you know,
I'm biased, whatever.
whatever.
I don't care.
Rebiased.
Shoot me.
No, okay, so one of the first horror movies I ever watched was
a Nightmare Before Christmas.
I'm just joking.
Nightmare on Elm Street.
What's?
What's Freddy's everywhere.
Anyway, uh one of my favorite scenes
in that movie, and it's kind of what got me into like, like
the whole like kills and things like that.
I'm not really into slasher.
It's it's like they're cool and all, but
I I would much rather watch paranormal horror movies like positions and stuff like that
or like viruses and zombies and stuff.
But one of of my favorite kills,
I think, is when Johnny Depp is hanging out in bed and
then he gets just fucking splash.
He like, he gets like pulled into his bed
and then just shot his blood shoots up to the roof and things like that.
That's a classic.
That's like, that is probably my favorite, um, kill scene of all time.
It's just the way it's done.
I know it's all like reverse, um, camera work. upside down.
And they filmed it upside down.
I'm like, oh, man, every time I watch it, it's just so satisfying and beautiful.
I'm just like, damn.
That's what's so great about the horror genre is that
it's a very innovative genre because you have to develop, at least back in the day anyway.
They had to like make all this shit up, you know, by hand to do in-cera.
There was no CGI back then.
Yeah.
So like you had all these artists and creative
people and engineers probably too.
They had to like just they had to make this stuff up.
I feel like that let this just so many crazy, fun,
you know, innovations and like, that's why I'm
a very heavy appreciator of special effects.
Pr Practical effects.
You know, I think the most recent movie, even though they had
their CGI in it as well, I think the most recent movie that
I've seen that had a really good use of practical
effects is like Alien Romulus.
And I'm like, damn, dude, like, I loved everything.
I love practical effects.
Nothing, I was really good.
It was I haven't seen it, but I've heard it's good.
Yeah.
Hey, maybe a review's coming.
Who knows?
Hey,
But yeah, so, I mean, that's my movie.
I like it.
All right, guys, let's do some quick wrap-ups here because
I feel like Arnold's going to Z out's Beverly soon, right?
right now.
Let's start with you, Arnold.
Tell us, give us, obviously, your final thoughts, your Z
rating, your regular rating, and then where can we find you?
Yeah, we pretty much covered everything that.
Oh, there was one part.
Did you guys find that kind of weird?
I don't know, I noticed that at the beginning, it made me think the
first thing I thought of was like, oh, it's definitely indie film, low budget
but like there showed them walking and
then it was kind of bright.
Then all of a sudden it was kind of dark.
Like, just like, and it happened like like two or three times in the movie.
And I was just like, wait, was that on purpose?
Or was it like,
oh, I I don't know.
I didn't get it.
And then like later I noticed some, they
shot the, so you can see the sky and that there was that was kind of cloudy.
So for in case people
noticed that, that like maybe we would think
like, oh, it was just the clouds.
They came in really fast.
I'm not sure which part you're talking about.
It was towards the beginning where it seemed pretty bright
or maybe it seemed dark, but it was a quick switch.
Was he walking?
Was he walking?
Yeah, he was just walking.
I think that was a part of the whole time lapse thing, like the same thing with the whole, like clipping.
Yeah.
I think that was part of that.
Yeah.
I think that was to help kind of move that forward, I think.
I mean, from what you're describing.
Oh, that's what I was going to say, too.
that maybe it was that.
But you guys covered pretty much everything else.
Uh-huh.
Onces your rating.
For the love of God.
Arnold's losing it.
Arnold's losing it.
Get him some more coffee.
No, put him on CN Town Hall.
Arnolds pacing is just like this movie.
Is that a Modello?
Is that a Modello?
Yeah, it is, it is.
In this podcast, we drink Pacificifico.m I had a corona before.
Oh, nice.
With the lime wedge?
No.
I got this 211 steel reserve.
Surprisingly, a zero Z rating.
I didn't fall asleep at all, and I did watch it after,
I don't know, I think we had In-N-Out or something.
Did you get animal style?
So What's your order?
What's your order at In-N-Out?
Here's my order.
Okay, so, okay, I'm weird.
I don't like to get my hands all I don't like to get my hands all messy.
Right?
Like, you know, like my hands all wet and everything.
So I tell them, no, just three by three
with cheese, grilled onions, no sauce.
And then I like it.
But then I end up using like at least
two sauce packets of the spread packets.
And then with each bite, I pump a little bit on there.
And then
man bite strategy.
Oh, gosh.
Good spread, right, Arnold?
So good.
It's good spread.
I love the spread.
Yes.
Arnold Arnold's a man who loves a good spread.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah Yeah, he does.
You guys too?
Yeah.
I love Arnold's Thanksgiving spread.
Which is very pick of you, Arnold because
it should leave your fingers sticky, which you hate.
Yeah, no, I don't like it.
No sticky fingers you.
I like it softer or at least like a little something.
Anyway, where can people?
Or actually, no, what's your rating?
What's your rating rating?
Oh, my rating?
I
Get this man in office now.
Okay.
Two and a half, two and a half or three?
I'll give it a three.
Two and a half a three.
You know, Poor Johnny.
They stole his necklace.
He just wanted his chain bag.
That's all he wanted her bag, yeah.
He just wanted the bag.
Was that a locket in his pocket?
Are we just happy to see him?
You know what I mean, Arnold?
Arnold, where can people find you?
They can find me in all socials.
I'm at Arnie Calgo.
And yeah, that's,
well, I'm on that same name everywhere.
Cool, cool, cool.
Justin, final thoughts, ratings, socials, all that good stuff.
Yeah, I think I'm just going to keep it short and sweet, just like this movie.
Just kidding.
No, it was a great watch.
I really enjoyed it.
I was surprised
by a lot of it.
Although it had, you know, some technical
issues in my viewpoints.
I still feel like it outpaced my expectations.
So I'm going to give it a nice four out of five.
I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Wood watch again.
Maybe I I'll speed up fast
forward some of the slower scenes.
But yeah, it's irrespectable for in my book.
You can find me at Shibbs
the Zombie on Instagram and all the other things.
If you just go to my Instagram and look up Shib the
Zombie, you can find all the links and things that I'm a part of
and you can join me on whatever adventureure I go on.
So there you go.
Nice.
Thank you for that.
Donnie, same thing for you.
Final thoughts and score and socials.
I see.
I watched I watched this movie pretty late.
Like I think I finished it like at two in the morning.
I just tried to squeeze it in there one night.
And as slow as it was, and even though I had gripes
about the speed of it, I didn't fall asleep.
So that was amazing.
It kept me awake, kept me focused.
And I really liked it.
I thought it was refreshing in comparison to all the other slasher films.
I would give it a solid three.
I would give it a solid three, and I would probably watch it again,
especially knowing that there's going to be a part two coming out just to kind of kind
of set me up and refresh everything right before watching it again.
But yeah, so all three.
Something we didn't mention, but I just want to
throw out there was I thought it was really
I thought it was shot really well in regards to like all the lighting
that, that, you know, that there's a lot of dark dark
lit scenes and they did really well capturing the ambiance and the atmosphere of that, I believe.
So.
I just that's big for me.
I like that.
That's a good point.
We never did get around to talking about the lighting.
Yeah, that was
that was really good.
But yeah, and then you can find me on Instagram
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Oh, yeah.
All right.
Alex.
I really enjoyed this film.
It was
not what I was expecting, but what I
got, it was very, I expected it.
And but the tropes in it were done
so differently that it kept me guessing
enough.
Like I kind of knew what was going to happen, but at the same time, I wanted to see if I was right.
And I was kind of right, but then at the same time, the
way they did certain things, I was like, oh, that was really cool.
And I'm to preface this, I'm not a horror fan.
I like horror.
I don't I'm not like a horror fan like Justin.
I appreciate horror horror, but it's like.
not the style that I go for.
But, you know, the kinds of horror that
does scare me is like possession stuff, that that kind of stuff.
Horror slash for stuff.
I mean like, I I'll watch it and I'm
like, it doesn't like I watched through all these kills and that was, I
barely got in a cranaged or like I think the one that
I think that the third kill, the yoga pretzel.
That was the one where it was like, oh, okay, the name of
this movie, this is where it pays off, you know, right here.
I thought that was that was like the one
that kind of like made it me go, huh.
I didn't like freak me out, but
I was just like, huh, oh.
Okay.
But like, overall,
like, like Donnie said, I really like the way this filmed.
I feel like the way the cinematography was done really well
for whatever budget they had.
I feel like the pacing was deliberate.
It was done the fast and slow, it was all intentional.
And that's why like, I feel like
even though the slow parts, a lot of you guys like, like
weren't really into that, it didn't deter you
from like following through because they're deliberate, you know?
And when something's done with intention
it's easier to like overlook those things.
You know, whereas like you could put in like a very slow
scene and if it doesn't make sense to the movie, then it doesn't make sense at all.
You know, and it just makes the movie bad, you know?
But yeah, I think that it was
it was really like the, it was slow enough
to a certain degree, and then they made it, they sped it up..
And then you got to another slow part.
Then it so it was well
edited.
And so, uh, for me, I gave this a three.
Uh, very solid three.
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Yeah.
Cool.
All right.
Yeah..
Now, we want to hear it, but you what you think.
I'm pretty much sure you going to be we've talked about.
I really liked it.
Tell us.
I was surprised.
Oh, I will.
I was surprised how much I enjoyed this movie.
This was kind of a, for me, it was a bit of a sleeper hit.
You know what I mean?
I enjoyed the slow movie natureature of the movie overall.
I love that there was no music throughout except the diaggetic stuff
I like the casualness of each kill.
Like he just like very casually just walks up to everybody
and fucking kills him and, you know, business as usual for him.
The slow tension throughout, I think, is really the best part
about it, especially that ending where I was, I was expecting something to happen
and like it really had me on the edge of my seat.
The bad stuff we talked about, you know, the dialogue, which I guess is to be expected in a movie like this.
I thought, the blonde yoga kill, as great
as that was, I didn't understand why she just kind of stood there.
You have this big wide shower.
She has all this room to fucking run
And she's like, just stands there and then she turns around, looks down
at the, what turns out to be not that steep of an incline
that she could have just risked going down, but whatever.
Still a great kill.
The fucking the
Park Ranger tire rolled her, by the way.
I just watched Tre rolled her off that cliff.
Yeah, and then the thing
else I didn't like was just the long drawn out conversation with the the old lady at the end.
But we discussed that.
I feel like that's actually more justifiable now that we've discussed it.
So
overall, fun movie, a fun slasher, a tight 90 minutes.
This wasn't like long at all.
This was like just a good 90 minute slasher movie.
I'm going to give it four out of five on that box.
That's how much I enjoyed it.
Nice and tight.
Tight, tight.
And yeah, and then rewatchability.
I think I think this movie's pretty rewatchable, honestly.
This is the kind of movie that would be fun to watch with a group of friends over a
couple of beers or whatever, you know, and you just kind of banter back and forth as you're watching it.
I think horror movies like this kind of lend them themselves to that.
So yeah.
It might be nice to put on, like, you know, on Halloween to have in the background.
Yeah, exactly.
Spooky seasons Yeah, good.
It's like a good date night film, you know.
You know, you could treat it as a Yule log type of thing.
Yeah, Yule log.
Yeah.
I mean, don't they treat like horror films as like Yol logs during Halloween?
anyways?
Kind of?
Yeah.
I typically do.
Yeah.
I think so.
Yeah.
I'm going to drop a Y log right now.
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