We finally tackle the original 2001 The Fast and the Furious, and some of us are shocked by how much we actually enjoy it. We talk Paul Walker, Vin Diesel, JDM and tuner culture, practical car stunts, the movie's Point Break influence, early-2000s filmmaking, and how this simple street-racing movie became a massive franchise. Plus, we debate whether Fast & Furious has become a caricature of itself.
We finally watched the original The Fast and the Furious from 2001, and this one turned into a much bigger conversation than we expected.
For some of us, The Fast and the Furious was a nostalgic favorite that we grew up watching over and over. For others, it was a movie we had written off for years as a shallow car movie. But after finally watching it, we discovered there's a lot more to appreciate than just street racing, flashy cars, NOS and Vin Diesel delivering lines about family.
We break down the original Fast and Furious story, including Brian O'Connor going undercover to infiltrate Dominic Toretto's crew, his relationship with Mia Toretto, and the complicated choice he faces when he realizes he's becoming loyal to the people he's supposed to investigate.
We also dive deep into the car culture behind the movie. Donnie explains how The Fast and the Furious helped bring JDM, Japanese import cars and tuner culture into the mainstream, while we talk about the real-world street-racing scene, race nights, modified Hondas, the rivalry between people who build their own cars and people who simply buy expensive performance cars, and how accurately the movie captures that early-2000s car culture.
The practical filmmaking is another major part of the discussion. We talk about the famous Honda Civics driving underneath the semi truck, the final train sequence, stunt drivers, the specialized car rigs used to film actors inside moving vehicles, and why the practical effects and on-location shooting give the movie a more grounded feeling than many modern action movies.
We also look at the movie's early-2000s aesthetic, including the paper maps, floppy disks, lack of smartphones, stylized racing sequences, music and the overall feeling of watching a movie made before modern digital filmmaking completely took over.
Then we get into the Fast & Furious franchise itself. We discuss how the series evolved from a relatively grounded street-racing movie into increasingly massive action spectacle, whether the franchise became "Flanderized," the importance of Vin Diesel and Paul Walker, the arrival of characters like The Rock and Jason Statham, and whether the later movies became more like The Expendables with cars.
And, of course, we talk about the lines, scenes and moments that have become part of pop culture: the Ferrari race, the Supra, "granny shifting," the infamous three Honda Civics, the big rig hijacking and the movie's unforgettable car dialogue.
Most importantly, we talk about the theme underneath all the cars and action: family and loyalty. The final decision between Brian and Dom works because Brian has become part of Toretto's family, and Dom ultimately recognizes that Brian has repeatedly helped save him and his crew.
By the end, we compare our ratings. Alex gives the movie 3/5, Donnie gives it 4/5, Justin gives it 3.5/5, Arnold gives it a massive 5/5, and Adrian gives the original Fast and the Furious a strong 3.5/5.
Whether you're a longtime Fast & Furious fan, a JDM enthusiast, a Paul Walker fan, or someone who has somehow never seen the original, we have plenty to talk about.
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Welcome to the Never Seen It Podcast.
The only podcast called Never Seen It That's worth listening to with us tonight.
Mr. Arnie, the One man Party
is here, Mr. Daily Dares, a..
Filipino Ggio, aka.
Alex Galo the Brothers.
Calo, Mr. Donny Appleseed, aka Donnie Guzman
the cousins Guzman, Mr.
Justin Rwin, aka Ghosterd 88.
And then there's me, Boots Too Big,
and the movie we're discussing tonight, is the 2001
action race car dr drama, the Fast and the Furious, the original
Fast and the Furious started by Rob Cohen.
Dominic Toretto is a Los Angeles street racer,
suspected of masterminding a series of big rig hijackings.
When undercover cop Brian O'Connor infiltrates
T's iconoclastic crew.
That's a big word for Letterbox.
He falls for Toreto's sister and must choose a side
the gang or the LAPD.
I mean, that's not even a selfie's choice, if you ask me.
The late Paul Walker stars in this, Vin Diesel,
Michelle Rodriguez, Jord Brewster, Rick Hune, Chad Lindberg, Donnie's Strong.
I mean, Jaw rules in this, Ted Levine.
And yeah, it's directed by this is, what are we at now, Arnold?
The movie 12, 13?
How many movies are we at now?
Oh, hold on.
They're coming in for domin.inic.
They're coming for Toretto.
There's a race.
There's a race.
Now, what do we at now?
Areld, how many movies is this now?
There's a race.
They're at 10 right now with 11 to be in the works.
Yeah.
I'm still waiting for Fast and Furious in space.
Like, they got to go balls to the wall, man.
Well, guess what?
They're going to space?
They're probably going to space.
I love it.
So, Arnold, you know, you've talked about this movie several
times over the years that we've been doing this show.
This was your movie.
We finally did it.
What does Fast and the Furious mean to you, Arnold, with this 25
year anniversary, it' hard to think that this movie came out 25
years ago, where was I at in that time of my life?
Where were you guys at that time of your life?
I was in high school.
Failing math.
Yeah.
I was watching the plane hit the second tap tower.
Yeah, actually, that's not even a joke.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Ooh.
Yeah.
That too, 25 years ago.
Oh, well, this was released June of 2001, so this is a pre-911 movie, technically, by a few months, but gone on.
I'm sorry.
We were still watching it on VCD to get a copy of it.
Was that like an early digital format?
Or what was it?
Yeah.
No, that was like that was a like pirated.
Those weren always pirated.
Blug version.
D..
Remember Dix.
Yep.
This movie, it was it was it's something that me
and a lot of my cousins, we grew up on.
We watched this so many times..
Let me ask you this, Arnold.
Uh-huh.
Do you think that Vin Diesel is to the rock what Stallone was to Schwarzenzenegger?
Like, obviously a successful career, but never reach
the same heights as, like, you know, as the big guy.
Like, do you think that that that's a fair
analogy between a Diesel and the rock?
Yeah, I don't know.
I have to think about that.
Are't They're really thinking about that.
Do you like Vin Diesel?
I wouldn't even compare Vin Diesel in the Rocky because they come from two
different spectrums of Think so?
Things, yeah.
I mean, like Who would be the I't think Vin Diesel was ever a wrestler, was he?
No, I don't think so.
I don't know.
Like, I think comparing like Stallone to Schwarzenegger makes sense, they're both like
you know, buffed out action movie stars, but I don't know.
I think it's weird.
I would say Vin Diesel and Batista
are a little bit more similar and range
as far as like acting careers ago, because like Vin Diesel has done like a lot of different stuff.
He did.
He's done dramas.
I want to know what Vin Diesel did right, that he's been able to
hang on this franchise for 24 years.
Because he's a fan of.
He's a D&D fan.
Oh, yeah.
In real life.
Is he?
He plays D&D. He's a PhHD&D fan.
He's a DM sometimes.
Yeah, that's interesting.
I didn't realize that you're asking about like, in terms of like
their whole acting.
I want to know what you thought about that just because like you kind of like, I feel like we
come from a generation where it was like Schwarzening or Stallone, right?
And then you had JCVD
Steven Seagal, maybe a little bit, even though he's, well, Steven Seagal.
You know, so I thought maybe like, is this like the new generation
of that sort of like the the strong meathead,
you know, lead man, like, such as the rock, such as Vin Diesel.
I don't want to say Baltisa because he actually has acting jobs, but you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
But we could put a pin in that.
We can put it's like Sam used to say, well, we put a pin in that.
Donnie, what do you think, though?
Like, what does this franchise mean to you?
Are you as passionate about this as Arnold or where do you lie on the spectrum?
Yeah, I love this movie.
I'm not going to say like it's like the best acting, right?
But it's just like, it's very nostalgic.
It carries a lot of meaning in
regard to like, you know, taking you back to that point of your life at least least for me.
This really blew up the JDM scene and
like really put it on the map glo What's that, I think.
Japanese domestic motoring.
So it's like
just all the cars from the Japanese, like Hondas and
Acura's, RX7, for example.
Would you say, like, you know how there's like a sneakerhead subculture?
Is there a racing car subculture?
Oh, yeah, 100%.
There's like a tuner scene culture and this is this is definitely put that on the map.
Yeah.
And a lot of crossover with a lot of other cultures, like
the rave scene.
With and then, the music was really good.
I liked the music in this movie.
Like it was like, it felt like club DJ music or whatever you, I don't know.
I'm not a big into that, but I liked the way it felt like a natural part of
the story.
Like it was digetic in some places where it's like all this like people are playing this music.
In the beginning, you see what is it, Dom plays his music and you
see the fucking, the subwoofers, you know, going, boom..
They were pretty accurate, right?
Like, you could see glimpses of it.
Like, Arnold just mentioned the rave scene.
There's a snippet, and when they start getting the cars ready where the
guy has his glow sticks and he's he's like. dancing with his glow sticks, right?
For like a split second
But it's very, like heavily intertwined.
There was this one show that was popularized around that same time.
It was called Hot Import Nights, and that's basically what it was, right?
Like you would see a lot of like the nightlife you
know, coming together with the car scene culture.
I have to say, so as someone who's never seen this movie,
like my perception of it all these years was
I don't know, I like, I'm a little bit of a pretentious film nerd
in the sense of like, oh, that just looks like, I don't know, like low
rent, like just trash, like nothing I would really want.
But, but no, but like I watched this one and I'm like, that was actually a fun movie.
Like, it's not a complicated story
Like, there's not a lot of, like, dumb monologues or long-winded, whatever.
It's just like, it's just kind of like beat by beat.
It just kind of like goes really fast and it's just an experience.
It's a ride, you know?
So, I appreciate that like that era filmmaking
where it felt everything felt more real
even like those crazy CG,
that you see in the background as they were racing in the very beginning of the movie, like I could tell that was CG.
I feel like I'm in the same boat as you, Adrian.
I kind of wrote this film off, mostly because
this came out and you said 2001 2001.
And I feel like that was like my last year
working at Video Depot, I. Oh, really?
Actually, no, no, no.
Yeah, it was 2000 was when I ended
my time at Video Depot.
So like a year later.
But I was still kind of that mindset of like, oh,
independent filmmaking, kind of like wanted more substance to my films.
Right.
And something on the surface level, like Fast and the Furious was
something that was just not in my
my purview.
I just kind of wrote it off as like..
But Arnold loved it.
And he like when I saw a lot of the
the pirated
movie, he'd always have it in the the VVDD
player all the time when it was not like being used.
And then he'd always have like the soundtrack going like
and then import Car magazines were kind of like, they were on the house.
Arnold was never like a super like
car guy, but he was like.. own a car in high school or nothing.
Yeah.
But you did have the what was a car that you had?
Scient TC.
He had a Cyan TC.
And he actually put of the models.
Oh, no.
But he had installed a cool Air intake that was like making
car.
And I was like..
I just remember that era of Arnold.
He was never like, like over
the hill, but he was kind of into the, almost reaching into that culture.
You like aspects of it.
Well, because I had a lot of friends who were
in that world and really into it.
We' go to what race and stuff.
I mean, I never did.
I I never even been to like race nights, but I knew like..
Didn't some people try to race you in the science TC?
I think I remember you were telling me that..
I've been to like some race nights.
I would say that it depicted it pretty accurately.
I mean, it was exaggerated, of course, like the way that they set it up and the way that they orchestrated it in the movie
But it's it is it's exactly that, right?
It's just a bunch of people coming together in one spot, like a
place where they can get the most time before the cops can get there.
I was actually kind of curious about that, how accurate
those race nights were because it looked in the movie, it looks so staged.
I'm sure it was like hyperbolic in the way, but like
you're saying that that's actually how it was.
That's kind of crazy.
Yeah, there was like, there was lookouts, there was like blockout points to
keep the cops away for a long period, longer period of time.
Everybody would just know where to meet, you know, every night.
When I moved to Vegas, when I first moved to Vegas, it was every
Friday night and they would order be a location that was posted
But yeah, it's pretty accurate.
This was When I moved to Vegas, I moved in I moved in 2001, actually.
It was the same year.
It was the same year.
Yeah.
Justin, had you seen this before?
Yeah.
Are you a fan of these movies?
Yeah, I've seen this before.
And I am a fan of these movies.
I actually got to
kind of like you guys, you and Adrian
and Alex, I kind of just wrote it off.
I actually first started picking up these movies
during COVID.
So I like, I just blazed through all of them.
I think there was seven or eight of them out at the time.
So I just blazed through all of them.
I just binge watched the entire series
like in within like two days or whatever.
And I was like, you know, I really actually enjoy this franchise.
It's kind of, you know, some of it's kind of stupid and silly, but,
I mean, it's, it's overall, just like a really good, fun time.
You don't really have to think about it a whole lot when you're watching these movies and
some of the action sequences, although ridiculous
they're really cool to watch.
I mean, it does start to get like progressively
more and more ridiculous as the series goes on.
But the first three movies are extremely solid flicks, for sure.
I missed, I think I mentioned this earlier.
I missed this era of filmmaking in the sense of, first of
all, this was shot on film and it I feel that it's
it's going to like, look good longer than stuff
shot on digital around that same time because it digital cinematography
was becoming a thing in the early 2000s still.
But, look at the original, like the prequels, right?
The Star Wars prequels.
Like those those don't hold up as good, like because they were shot
on HD at the time, like the highest digital.
But this was shot on film.
And I think this is going to look good for ages, I think, right?
And I love the stunts, like, with the whole big rig
sequence at the end, that was great.
That was tense.
And it's like, man, like, that shit you can tell they used
a lot of stunt, like a lot of stunt performers and wanting stunt drivers and all that.
But man, like, you can feel it.
Like it just, I think you if that was made today, it wouldn't, I don't know, it wouldn't look as good because it would all be digital, right?
I also appreciate this movie because of that reason, too.
I mean, there are some digital aspects, but very light, very light.
Because you even said there's like CG in the background of some of the scenes.
But although like Speed Rac a little bit those scenes are
actually just like sped up and warped or whatever.
It's not even much CG usage.
That's still filmed too.
It's just manipulated, you know, in whatever they did editing that.
But I love the practical effects in this movie.
It makes it feel like a real
car movie that you.
It does. that you could be like, oh, I could see this on the street happening right now, Ta deal.
You said at the beginning that there was a lot of like CG.
What parts?
That very first drag race between Paul Walker
and With the four of the four of them?
With the four of them.
Jaw rule, Paul Walker, and Mindy's on the other guy.
The streaking on the, like that's going by in the windows and stuff.
And then like, there's some shots where you see the street streaking by and
I'm like, oh, that looks straight out of Speed Racer or something.
But it's so stylized that it fits the overall look.
Like it's very stylized.
Like the editing is so
stylized in those racing shots.
Well, because that scene is supposed to be, isn't it supposed to be a quarter mile?
Yeah, a quarter mile.
And I think that was like went on for three miles.
I kept asking like, how long is this street?
Yeah, in real life I lived I lived my life a quarter mile at a time.
Donnie, you had something?
No, I was just going to talk about how they shot that scene.
Like, a lot of them were not really driving, like
in the beginning scene with the four cars.
They had this, they created this rig.
It was actually invented for this movie where they basically
the frame of their car sits on top of a big
rig, a high-powered rig where an actual driver is driving it. and so
they're just pretending to drive and that's how they get their shots.
So it's a professional driver and they're just acting like they're driving it.
But they're sitting on top of this metal rig with a driver on the underneath.
Do you know if they use green screen?
I feel like they would have used a little green screen..
They used, you know that final scene with the train tracks?
Yeah.
So that was shot separately.
So they did the train and then they did the cars flying.
They actually drove, they had stunt drivers do that.
And then they merged the two together to make it look like they were almost coming.
Oh, nice.
So they did it separately, but they were actually doing, those were real.
Like the cars were actually driving over to track like that.
Wow.
Wow.
That is amazing.
Yeah.
And my favorite missing the train.
Oh, Yeah, yeah, exactly.
The one with the three civics, weren't it going underneath the semi and stuff?
Yeah, that was really cool.
Yeah, like the stunt tricks they did there.
They basically hired the semi truck a little bit, and
then they cut the frame on the Honda Civics
to lower the height, and then they put suspension on it, of course, to slam the ground.
Because after that scene, I remember wherever
I went, like semi-rucks, I was like, man, a Honda Civic won't fit under that.
I did the same thing.
And for the longest, I was looking for that Honda.
I was like, I'm going to get that Honda Civic one day.
I mean, the way how the
hijack scene, it kind of, for me, felt
the same kind of energy as like Dark Knight.
You know, how Dark Knight starts with like the whole
bank robbery with the Joker and all all that.
And just the intense energy and like,
I had that same sort of feel for me.
I agree.
No, I can see that.
It was a really well-made sequence.
I mean, I was watching that and I'm like, man, this
must have taken weeks to film or something because there's so many
it's dangerous, first of all, obviously.
And then it's like, there's so many different moments throughout and it's like a long sequence.
I'm like, this had to have taken weeks to film.
Like, and you really appreciate the craft, right?
Because making movies is like physically tough.
It's logistically a nightmare and it's like they really, they were pulled that off really great.
So I really enjoyed that.
A couple of things I want I noticed throughout the movie, we mentioned this, the dialogue.
There's some great lines in here by so many different characters.
Like one, like the main police chief guy that Paul Walker works for.
You say, you want time, buy the magazine.
That's a good one.
You're like, are you, what is, um, what is, um, the other
guy, the guy from Sis of the Lbs, what does he say to Paul Walker?
He's like, you going native on me?
And I was like, whoa, whoa.
Oh, wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Oh, he's from Silence of the Lambs?
That was Buffalo Bill.
Yeah.
He's been in a ton of stuff, but I thought you were going to
mention the part with Hector,
the guy who plays Hector, in so many other..
Yeah, he always plays guys named Hector.
Yeah, it's. like a joke at this point.
It's hilarious.
The part where he's like, oh,
don't let this distract you from the fact that he's going to be running three Honda Civics with spoon engines.
On top of that, he' just went in the Harry's and bought three
T66 turbos andec engine
You know what's funny?
Those Hondas that they used for that scene, the Black Hondaas, none of them were turbo.
They were all like stock 100 horsepower each.
They were like, and then the sounds that you hear from
those cars were just inserted later from a different car.
They use audio files
to make it enhance it basically to make it sound like they were really fast.
Yeah files.
Yeah, they're just painted black with body kits.
I know nothing about cars, so I'll take your word for it.
I'm assuming the Nas thing is like a real thing, because I've seen that brand.
It's like a real life.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that's real.
It's also a real life energy drink.
I've also. seen, is it the same company?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Did they pivot into the energy drinks for what's called?
Well, they sponsor a lot of like street racing cars and just like cars in general.
But the non-enerergy drink actually looks like the Nas canisters too.
If you ever like looked at the energy drink,
yeah, that's what the Nas canisters look like..
It gives you a boost.
Gives you a buzz to say.
Not as extravagant as this movie portrays
it, but, I mean, it does give you a significant boost in acceleration.
Oh, I was just going to say, that's kind of the thing I don't like about this movie where
they kind of rode off what happened in the car, through
the eclipse to Paul Walker's car, right?
Like he cracked his pistons and then
a couple minutes later, he's running away from the cop in the same car.
I was going to say, what was up with that?
I thought his car was just shit.
That's not real.
If he had done that, like, that would not have happened.
Like, you blow, you crack a piston, you're done.
Like, your car is not Operational anymore.
So
Yeah, it gets away from the cops, like the cop..
And your sheet metal wouldn't blow off because you ran that much gnaoss.
Like that just doesn't unscrew itself.
Like that doesn't happen.
Right.
And the funny thing is he only had one piece of sheet metal under his car.
It was just under his seat, which was kind of hilarious.
That was so when his car breaks down, he could do the Flintstone thing and
Yeah, I could see that.
Or like in the movie Speed where they like remove the floor and he's like going under.
I don't know.
I just read about this.
I didn't But do you guys, did you guys ever ever watch Point Break, the one with Patrick Swayze back in the days?
I never watched it, but I know the reference, like the I am an F
This is like a blueprint of that movie of Pointak.
So I'm point Break, they had FBIs infiltrating like a gang of like surfers, right?
He took that exact concept and made Brian,
LAPD instead of FBI, and they're infiltrating a gang of racing hijackers.
But it's the same exact.
They follow it, the blue print, like exactly almost.
That's interesting.
I like that.
Thinking about it now, I
would say I would say you're mostly right.
I would say mostly.
I would say there is like certain things that each
movie has unique to itself
but I can see where you're going with it.
The other think I noticed about this movie was..
You obviously have a ridiculously like good looking cast of characters.
But, like, I don't know.
Is it just me or do people look more natural back then, like,
not as much surgery, not as much, you know, lip fat reductions or whatever they're calling them?
I don't know.
I just like you see like, you see Nicole Kidman going on a movie and, you know, her face is like frozen.
And like a lot of actresses are suffering the same fate, unfortunately
But like this movie, like, you see like Jordana Brewster.
You see Michelle Rodriguez.
You see like all these, and I'm like, oh, like Paul Walker, like, you know, good looking people.
And it's like, they look natural.
They don't look like they've had, and if they have had work done, then that's an amazing surgeon.
I don't know.
Georgia Brewster was
like really tanned and sweaty throughout the whole movie, I noticed.
She always had like a sheen on her face.
I was like, it must be hot in LA.
Those girls are different hot, though, right?
Like, they're like badass hot girls, right?
They're not like, you know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're like, they're not like girl like door hot or whatever, you know, they're different hot.
That's true.
From the garage kind of the.
Yeah, yeah. kind of hot.
Like, hey, what are the guys type of hot?
Like, I don't know.
That's not weird, but.
Some oil grease on their knees.
There's a slight edgininess to this movie, too.
Like in the beginning, Jaw rules character.
Like, the girl comes up to him and he just straight up grabs her breast.
Like, don' you don't see her breast because his hand's covering it, but it's he just gets a handful.
And I'm like, oh, I don't think they would do that these days.
Like, you know, that's such a male gazy shot that they wouldn't even do that today.
They wouldn't dare do that.
At least not in mainstream.
Not by universal pictures, you know what I mean?
No.
You see it a lot still in like independent film and
like a lot of like more neiche stuff.
But yeah, definitely not a n.
And this the look of this movie has an indie feel to it.
Doesn't it, in a way, like, I know it's universal, but
I don't know, the cinematography just, it looks like a high budget indie movie.
And I mean that in a good way.
I mean, I get what you're trying to say.
I feel like
Who's the director again of this film?
Rob Cohen.
Rob Cohen.
And has he filmed anything else?
That was something I't note?
He's done...
The Dragon Emperor.
XXX.
Oh, that Triple X with also Vin Diesel.
Dragon Heart.
Yeah.
What was Dragon H?
Oh, that's.
Oh, was Sean Connery?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, and Dennis.
Yeah, gotmar's Dragon Hawk.
But I feel about now, dog?
I kind of feel, though, like, you know, maybe
it it was just sort of like unproven ground.
And like it was probably going to be a costly film because like car movies are not cheap.
You know, you're always having to like, like have several different cars.
And then you're also having to shut down like roads or find roads that are like
you know, that are clear where they can like just shoot for days.
And that's why I'm sure that's why they shot that final scene in the desert.
You know, so it just makes sense.
But so I think that that's where you're probably getting the whole indie thing is like they're trying to make
do where they can make it with a
more streamlined budget where they could actually shoot that
stuff and not worry about spending too much money, you know?
How much do you guys think the budget was for this film?
$38 million.
I'm going to guess.
I was going to say $50 million, actually.
It's $38 million, yeah.
Wow
Wow.
I saw it's like it's a multi-billion dollar franchise though.
Like it's made its money for sure, right?
You know, you know what I also, because I just
looked it up and I was just wondering if this movie
filmed anywhere on the Universal Backlot being a,
you know, universal produced movie.
And from what it tells me is that not
really, like maybe a couple of scenes, but it's not none of the driving scenes.
They needed more space
to shoot some of these scenes.
So they actually filmed on location through the city of Los Angeles, which this was pretty cool.
They drove past the the Jaws scene and that's it.
That was been great, yeah.
Yeah.
It's like based off of like the
car scene in New York, but they did it all in Los Angeles.
I wonder if any of the scenes were actually filmed out here in the desert, because
they referenced like, oh, the Kacha Valley, Highway 86.
I remember that.
I thought it was weird how they pronounced it.
Coaco.
Coacello.
San Bernadino International Airport was used as one of the scenes.
I see that.
I don't think they filmed near the Valleyalley, though.
I feel like they mostly filmed near the coast.
Even the desert stuff was probably filmed.
Well, that I was inh.
St's closed.
Is that where they did one battle?
Oh, okay.
I feel like one battle after another filmed in a similar location.
I don't know, look very similar.
I remember that one was filmed.
But yeah,
L.A. plays a great character in this movie.
And one of the things that I was kind of laughing at was like, oh, it's
in L.A for a lot of it, but you don't see a whole lot of L.A. traffic.
So I'm like, that's interesting.
Close it off.
Close it off.
What else is I going to say?
The other is.
Why is the Tretto's restaurant?
Why is it located on top of a hill in
what is presumably like the Hollywood Hills?
I don't know.
I. That's a good question.
That's really bad looking.
I don't they get a lot of.
I don't think they get a lot of a lot of business there.
There's no foot traffic going past that restaurant whatsoever.
And why why is the house, the house
and the business kind of set up the same way as like the psycho house in the motel?
Can you tell me why?
Why is it like that?
I don't know, but
now that you're talking about it, I'm thinking about it.
I'm like, that doesn't make sense, does it?
Yeah, I don't know.
He won a prime real estate in LA.
It's Hollywood area.
Location, location, location.
And it's all a cover-up because remember, they're stealing all the DVD
players with Oh, that's super, super hot commodities.
That looks so old.
It's like built into the TV.
Toreto's Cafe is actually, where was it?
I had Echo Park.
It's a real place, but it's not it's.
I had a written.
It's called Bob's Zorket.
What was I going to say?
Oh, Bob's Market.
The other line of dialogue, when Terreto sees that
Paul Walker's character's dating his sister, he's like, you break her heart.
Oh, break your neck.
I'm like, oh, calm back, bro.
They said it was me who was screaming.
Wait, what was that part?
Oh, that was Vin Diesel.
He's talking about Oh, that's his dad when his dad diedies.
That dark backstory about his dad.
It's like, they said it was me who was screaming.
I'm like, oh.
Do it in your best Vin Diesel voice, Adrian.
They said it was me who was screaming.
No, that's too...
That's too, yeah, that's not.
I don't know.
That's very Stallone.
That's very Stallone, yeah.
I'll work on that.
Here's a question
for the fans in the chat and the fans in this chat.
Has anybody in that scene when
To's telling Brian Earl Spillner that's
the story, there's a calendar in the background
what date is on the calendar?
I did not catch that.
420.
That's my guess, too.
I have no clue.
I actually forgot, but first some reason, I'm thinking that it was my birthday.
When is your birthday?
December 12th.
So it was just, okay, gotcha.
Well, December 69.
That was a great scene.
I think that's the best acting I've ever seen Vin Diesel
do in anything I've ever seen him in.
So, you know, I like the line, though, when he's like, what does he say about the guy that
that has killed his father?
He's like, he's a janitor now.
He has to take the bus every day.
I'm like, oh, how do you know all this?
I just thought that was an interesting little detail that he threw in there.
I'm like, who's poor guy.
The look on his face, he actually, you know, he really felt bad.
Like he just couldn't control himself.
Doesn't he say he beat him up or he was going to go beat him up?
He like ended his life.
He basically fucked up his life.
That's probably why he knows about him, right?
Like, he's probably feels some sort of remorse for how he acted.
And he knows that he tends to take the bus every day to work
Should have given him a car.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, something, like some kind of, I don't know, maybe that was
the the reason why he got banned from like racing professionally.
And that therefore, now he lives a quarter mile at a time.
I feel like I should be drinking a corona.
You should be drinking a fresca.
Oh, I love fresco.
I haven't had a fresco in a while.
But what do you guys think about the throwback to old technology?
Like, you know, he's using paper maps.
There's no smartphones.
I don't even know if they had cell ph cell phones in this.
Oh, yeah.
Even Jesse, he pops in a floppy dis.
Yeah.
I use that?
Oh, yeah, that's I real that, yeah.
Oh, does he?
I totally missed that.
It's when they were like fixing up the car.
They were like repairing
one of those scenes and they were in the garage and they were like, I need this and this and this.
And.
And they were like some of that Supra, that Supra he bought.
The at about the 38 minute mark.
It was basically the 3 3D planning software that
he used to build that this.
On a floppy disc, that's fascinating to me.
It was on multiple It was on multiple floppy disks to be fair.
He was loading up the software.
He had like 30 discs.
For our young audience, if you've ever seen
the save icon in any app or software program,
that's based on a floppy disk, a little square
disc back in the day that we used to put,
you know, documents and stuff on.
It was only a megabyte.
They were only up to a megabyte, So yeah, he would have needed like a ton of those.
You weren't saving music files on there.
No, no, no.
That's for sure.
But you can save pictures on their.
They would take a while to download, though, right?
I don't know. a 56K connection, Arnold.
So I'm sure you know that with a lot of megahertz.
What else, Arnold?
So you've been watching these movies.
You've been a fan.
Let me ask you this.
Has the quality dipped?
Has it gone up?
Has it kind of just remained level over the years, Arnold?
I'd say it's changed just because it's like
bigger budgets and like the,
sorry, Bruce is walking back and forth because he hears people.
Yeah, it's changed it.
The stakes are a lot a lot higher, bigger budgets.
So, you know, even no more like street racing type of cars.
You got like
um tanks, pretty much.
It's like action movie now, like a full-on action movie.
Yeah, yeah.
It's like...
I mean, for a perspective, they're one of the movies,
they're in, what's that fucking city called?
That major city in Africa?
Oh, uh Nairobi?
No.
Oh, J Jhannesburg.
Is it Jabi?
No, not Japan.
Africa's a big country anymore anymore.
Anyway, it's like one of it's a city with one of
the tallest buildings in the world..
Oh, Sorry, continent, my bad.
Isaac country.
Well, whatever.
Anyway..
They like drive out of the building into
another building that's like across the way.
And like, that's how ridiculous it gets.
I mean, it gets more ridiculous than that, but literally they have a car
hopping, and it's not even just one car.
It's multiple cars hopping buildings
It's pretty crazy, like Spider-Man.
Sounds like a Jason Statham movie or something.
Yeah.
I was going to say..
Well, doesn't he share the franchise later on?
Yes.
Doesn't?
Oh, doesn't.
I didn't make it that far.
I don't know that.
Doesn't The Rock also join the franchise?
At one point,
And Cena.
Yeah, I know that.
And John Cena?
When you mentioned The Rock, that's what I
thought you had like Because I was thinking that like
later because I was like, well, I kind of like enemies and kind of like. become partners.
Spoiler alert.
I was thinking more in real life, like the trajectory of both their careers.
They're both like these big buff, like bald dudes and I just thought, oh, like.
That's why I got a little confused.
But obviously The Rock has
Right.
done tons of different movies, whereas Vin Diesel is mostly stuck to this franchise.
And also he's done Groot, which I'm sure probably pays him more than these movies at this point, right?
So I just thought it was interesting, though.
But, but you were saying, Arnold, that it's changed over the years.
The quality has changed because the different storylines and all that.
And like different directors as well, I think, right?
It's I think up
until like the second or Too Fast, too Furious,
it was the same people, same director.
And then it definitely changed after that.
What's your favorite of all these movies?
Which one's your favorite one?
The definitive?
The original and Too Fast Too Furious.
Okay.
That's when Tyrese gets introduced into the whole...
Interesting.
So do you feel like
the franchise has kind of been flanderized a little bit bit over the years
of Arnold, just because it gets so ridiculous at times?
Or What do you think about that?
Flanderized.
So like, you know Simpson?
I got to write on the Simpsons.
You've watched The Simpsons?
Oh, Flanders.
right?
Is it Ned Flanders?
You know how like in the beginning?
Flanders.
Ned Flanders.
He's kind of like a regular Christian dude, and then over the course of
the series, he's kind of become like an over the top like characteraricature of himself.
They call that Flanderization.
So do you see that in this franchise at all in any aspect?
Does Flander become like naughty later, or does he still like
He just becomes like an
over-the-op caricature of himself, like, not even like a three-dimensional person.
Does that make sense?
Okay, well, a little, yeah, definitely over the top.
Yeah.
It does become like really over the top.
And I think you had repuled
or shared a video to
your story about some guy who's breakingaking down
the physics of
some of the stunts, like in part.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
That was like an engineer that talks about them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Like, yeah, he gets kind of ridiculous, but great action.
Yeah, there's a great TikTok channel.
It's like an engineer dissects like big action movies.
A lot of them like the Marvel movies,
and like like, for example, a lot of his
videos start with like showing an Iron Man doing something crazy stunt.
He's like, and Tony Stark is now dead.
And then he goes into like, why the physics don't matter mean
makes sense and then engineering doesn't make sense.
Yeah, it's a whole thing, but I'm glad you like this franchise, Arnold.
I'm glad I'm happy to know that this is like one of your, you know, top
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah, okay.
Are you surprised?
I know.
It's just my jam.
Totally my jam.
This type of movie, like, just falls into the same category, at least for
me, like a movie like Hackers, right?
Like, kind of like, kind of silly, but it's like, it keeps you going, keeps you watching
I don't know.
There's something fun about it.
It's not It's not too complex.
It it just, it just, you know, takes you on for the ride.
It takes you for the ride for, you know, for what it is.
Yeah.
I, I think the acting,
like, like Paul Walker is a good actor.
Like he really
I wouldn't even say he was a bad actor.
I know he, I don't know how far into the franchise
he passed away, but like, I feel like he's probably like the core central
character throughout this franchise, right??
Or is that more Vin Diesel's character?
Arnold, you can play more of an expert on this than I am, but.
It's kind of both of them.
I mean, they're both.
I mean, a lot of the cast is like their main character,.
Some of them disappear for a little bit.
Some of them don't come back.
There's characters that have died and haven't come back, but
the two that have been the most frequent as Paul Walker and
Vin Diesel's characters, I think the only movie that kind of
the only, there's actually two movies that kind of drive
off the mainline and that's Tokyo
Drift and Hobbs and Shaw and whatnot.
Yeah, those were the only two movies where like they have like different casts and different
themes and things like that.
But all the other movies, um, every one of them
up until seven, which is Paul
Walker's final Fast and Furious movie.
I'm curious.
And you can spoil this for me.
What happens to Paul Walker's character on the next movie?
Like, he's a cop in this one, he ends up on the side of Dominic Toreto.
How does he reconcile that as a cop the next.
And this is a big spoiler.
So sorry for Joe believe that I' seen it.
No, they they kind of leave it off on like
Brian's kind of reconciles with
the police and whatnot.
And he's like, hey,
I just want to go live the rest of my life. doing my
thing without having all this drama.
So he, they write in a break for him
and it's at the very end of the movie and it's,
um him and Dom driving next to each other
and it's that like famously memed scene where they're
like looking at each other and it's actually, it's not even really Paul Walker.
It's just his face overlaid on his brother
and they just split
off and that just shows that like he's no longer going
to be a part of anything anymore.
So they wrote them off as like,
I'm going into like witness protection and I'm going to go live the rest of my life doing my own thing.
You guys are never going to see me again.
Type of deal.
I'm assuming in every movie there's a big heist,
a big takedown that they're planning.
That's the big set piece at the very end of the movie.
Like all this was the big rig stuff and then, right?
I mean, some movies have like multiple
scenes of extravagance.
I'll say.
Yeah, they have It's not even just like, oh, we're setting up for this one big scene.
Yeah, maybe like the first four or five movies.
It's like that.
But then once you get to like six and beyond, then it's like,
oh man, every little thing that they do is deathying.
It's crazy.
It's absolutely incentive.
Like they have a whole carport that collapses
on top of them and miraculously they escape from it.
I'm like, damn, dude.
I kind of want to watch this whole franchise now, honestly.
Like, you I think there's I think maybe I'm
wrong, but there's like there's a scene in a movie where they take out a helicopter with a car or something like that.
Or am I thinking thinking of a different movie?
I've seen that.
It might be this franchise.
It might be that or it's either that or literally Die Hard.
movie..
I definitely recommend watching them in order.
Yeah.
Well, does Vin Diesel, Arnold, in your opinion?
Does he really carry this franchise?
Is he the godfather of this franchise in your opinion?
Does he bring the grait to to the role?
I'm trying to get into the NA gritty, because you've seen these movies, you know this franchise.
So like,
tell me, what does Vin Diesel do for you?
Yeah, he's definitely a big,
like foundational character for the whole franchise.
And, you know,
there are some that he's not even in it.
But most of them, he is.
And, you know, it's all like,
the story's built That makes sense.
I think.
I'm kind of curious, though.
With the Rock's involvement,
like later on then in a row, does it feel like he's trying to co-opt
like the franchise to be like his thing?
Because he's like he's kind of been notorious for trying to do that
especially with a DC universe where he was trying to make,
like shift the narrative of like that Black Adam film being
like the main character of the DCU rather than Superman.
And like he like he wanted to
shape it in his own image in a way.
And then, like, is that what it seems like?
And to me, that's what it seems like.
That's with that whole like Hobbs and Shaw film, they like do
a solo or solo film
with the Rock and that kind of feels that way to me.
I don't know.
It's like a side story about the
Rock and Jason Statham's characters.
Because The Rock in the franchise is a cop
And Jason Statham is kind of like
the vigilante that he's after.
So they staged like a movie
where it's like, and I don't know why the spinoff was ever warranted.
I don't think it was really that necessary.
I think it was more of like, yeah, if
you're talking about someone trying to co-op something, I think The Rock was like, oh yeah,
this is something that I can also have my
name on and have a little bit of like a, like permanent credit to.
But more or less, I think
you know, before it was more of like, this
is Paul Walker and Vin Diesel's kind of thing, you know?
And I feel like all these characters that they brought on
just start, it's starting to become more of like the Expendables, but for cars.
There's something about it, too.
Like he, um,
like, why I feel like he's trying to co-opt it, too. is
like, he's kind of notorious of like, not just, like the whole DCU
thing, but in his own contracts for, like, a lot of those films, he doesn't lose fights.
He never loses a fight.
Yeah.
You know what else, you know what else The Rock is trying to
co-opt that he can't is his height?
Because this is what I think of when I think of the rock in the this franchise.
I mean, what is happening here, gentlemen?
They're not even in the same plane.
They're not even facing each other other directly.
The classic use of Peter
Jackson and filming and forced perspective..
Look at his head compared to Vin Diesel's.
What is happening here?
Even their eyeline doesn't match.
He's looking at his nose.
Is that just the angle are they really not the same height?
Well, no, they're not even standing in lock step.
Like Vin Diesel is
like, this way, and the rock is like kind of to this, like, you know, what I mean?
Their feet further aren't facing.
Like, Imagine if my fingers were their feet.
They're like this.
This is how they're standing.
Not like this.
Like this This is This is what I imagine what
would have happened if you gave Peter Jackson 10 bucks to make a scene.
Who's Gandalf in this analogy?
Would it be...
Vin Diesel's Gandalf.
And The Raucus Frodo.
I mean, look at that.
That is egregious.
Like, I don't know how you even...
Arnold, you don't remember this?
You've seen these movies, right?
I don't know this was like a big point.
Well, I just thought their nips are definitely big pointing.
Yeah.
Especially with how tight that shirt is.
Yeah.
You know what's funny in some of the, like
the later ones, especially with Tyrese, he tends to bring a lot of the
comedy into it.
And apparently it was there was one scene where
they're at the house and they're like having a barbecue and
then the rock, he's walking up, but Tyrese, he doesn't see it at that moment.
But then he's like, he's talking and he's all, why
does it smell like baby oil out over here?
And then all of a sudden
the rock walks up.
And then he's looking all shiny and everything.
But he said he says something, he says something back
to him that I forget what it is, but it's hilarious, though.
And it was like unscripted, too.
It was like straight up.
They were straight up beefing off each other.
It's crazy.
Something about his head.
I think I do need to keep watching these movies.
I feel like I'm missing out.
I feel a little bit a little bit of foMO right now.
Like I'm not.
You know what I mean?
Like, I'm not getting all these references.
That was the points.
That way we can get you to watch
the rest of the movies.
And I help you all of you out there in the chat, all in the chat.
I was wrong.
I was telling Jack.
Justin and I was like, dude, fucking Adrian's going to hate this fucking movie?
I didn't hate it.
I know.
I saw I was so shocked.
I was expecting to hate it, but
I'm shocked.
you have to have to appreciate it for what it is and what it's not.
You know what I mean?
The quote goes like this.
Roman's like, hey, Mia, you better hide your baby oil.
And then Hobbs walks in.
He's like, you better hide that big ass forehead.
Wow.
Ludicrousy almost like spit out of his ear.
Totally unscripted..
Yeah.
I will say that this film did want me to
see the second one.
Because the ending was like a really good cliffhanger.
Like how are they going to reconcile all of this?
So.
So the first three are really solid.
Like seriously, the first I really like Tokyo Drift as well.
The second movie is pretty good too.
I would I would say it's not as good as
the first first one, but it is still worth watching as well.
It's still a fun movie
I would say the writing is a little bit better in the second one as well.
I like Tokyo Drift because it takes you off on a whole new storyline.
I think maybe one character is
just mentioned or briefly shows up on screen from the
previous two movies, but Tokyo Drift is
a really good standalone film as well because they kind
of, well, it takes place in Tokyo and
it's a whole new cast of characters and characters that are introduced
for the first time and the last time until
they come back in like the seventh and eighth movie.
When does Sun Kang Sun Kang up make his appearance in this series?
Tokyo Drift.
Tokyo Drift
yeah.
Speaking of up with always having this like little hip-h characters.
Bow Wow is in part three, right?
Yeah..
Yeah, he's's a rapper in like every in every movie.
Is Tokyo Drift the official sequel or is it like another like sort of
Hobbs and Shock?
It's the third sequel.
It's the third sequel, but kind of more or less a spinoff.
But it's just like, oh, this is Fast and Furious in Tokyo and Japan.
Like chronologically.
But it's still good.
Like I said, it's chronologically,
it takes place as the third movie
but..
Oh, it was.
It was the third.
Oh, okay.
So we got the Fast and the Furious.
Yeah.
Too Fast, Too Furious.
The Fast and the Furious Tokyo Drift.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
And then just Fast and Furious, did they sort of reset
the timeline in 2009?
No something?
No, Fast and Furious.
And then we got Fast Five.
Simple, Clean.
I like it.
Fast and Furious 6.
They keep going back and forth with them.
They can't decide when and where they want to use numbers.
But that's fine.
Furious V, the fate of the
Furious, and then what is Hobbs and Shaw?
Is that a spinoff?
That sounds like a sp.
Yeah, Hobbs and Shaws a spinoff about the Rock and Jason Statham's characters.
So that's not Furious 8 because that would
be the fate of the Furious because then he got
nine.
Yes, because even on the movie
itself, it has the number eight in Fate or whatever.
Yeah.
And then he got Fast X, which is meant to be Fast 10, I'm assuming.
It should have been Fast 10 yearear seatbelts.
Oh.
That's.
Dude.
He missed.
That is good, dude.
That is good.
Universal, you can have that one,
but pay Justin a little Finder's fee, because that's great, dude.
Wow.
Hey, Adrian, does that tell you how much each movie made?
I'm just wondering how much a Tokyo Drift made in
comparison to one, since they took it to like the birthplace of like the whole JDM culture thing.
I'm just curious.
It doesn't have the bonx office in the number of.
I feel like that would have been like really like, everybody wanted to see that, I feel like.
And notice the directors too.
Yeah.
I don't mean to cut you guys off, but notice the directors of everything.
Rob.
Yeah, but it doesn't really start getting good until Justin
Lynn and James W start coming in because Justin Lynn and James Wan coming in to make these movies
Like, that's why those series of movies are
so good because they actually put a lot of the hard work in.
Oh, yeah, James W saw movies.
That's interesting.
Did he put a horror aspect to it?
Yeah, in Furious?
No, it was more just like, I think his vision made the movie really cool.
That's why, like, after so many years
like, I didn't get into Fest
and Furious until after, you know, Furious
7, but I didn't even really start watching these movies until about 2020.
So
when I first saw Furious 7,
I was like, oh my God, this is actually a really good movie.
Like, it was still kind of ridiculous, but it was really, really well written.
The movie in general is a really fun watch, too.
It's interesting that they used to go only a
couple years in between, and now they're like, so Fast X came out 2023
and then we're not getting the next one.
Fast Forever, 2028.
So I find that kind of interesting that they're Maybe that's the wrap up.
Maybe that's the final one.
I don't know.
Yeah.
And Justin Lynn did a better luck tomorrow also.
That's right.
We were talking about him the other day..
Which I believe some of the cast from Better luck Tomorrow is in Tokyo Drift.
Yeah, wow, and he's done a ton of movies.
Anyway, going back to Fast and Furious. $54
million is what Vin Diesel gets for playing group.
Wow.
Jeez Going back to what you guys were talking about, bringing back characters.
I don't know.
Donald, you might have heard or maybe Justin
heard about this Fast and the Viewers Lore.
So in part one, you have the main characters.
You got Vin Diesel.
You got
Paul Walker, Michelle
Rodriguez, Jordana Brewster, and Chad something.
I forget his name.
The other guys, Leon,
he's never returned in any of the other Fasts and the Fears.
Like, he just never never mentioned.
But, but there, I read something about, um,
are they going to bring him back in the next one?
Maybe.
I mean, because he was never like, he never died or anything.
He was part of like the original crew.
Well, Jesse dies in this movie.
He gets shot by the drive-by
gang..
Isn't that his brother, too?
Like, the one that, like.
He gets shot?
No, the other the other one. he's like..
Like, Jesse, the one that gets shot.
Doesn't he have a brother in it?
Like, the other dude?
What's his name?
Not Vince's brother.
Vince?
Oh.
Jesse was kind of just like sort of..
The one that was always.
Leon, yeah, Leon.
Isn't that Jesse's brother?
Are't they brothers?
I thought they were brothers.
Aren't they supposed to be brothers in this film?
I don't think so.
I didn't think they were brothers.
I didn't.
I could be wrong.
I could be wrong.
I don't think it would be wrong.
Maybe I'll have to watch it.
Because at one point, Vin Diesel's character says that he took
him in because he's like he's his brother.
Like he was the boy.
Well, yeah, didn't they just like show up or something like that?
Yeah, yeah.
He just like randomly
I thought that was Fast and Furiously typing.
I' sorry I know.
I got a question for you, Arnold.
Yeah.
And this is the AI gave me this question to ask.
I have my own chat with AI and gives me, ask me what to ask Arnold.
So this is the Arnold ask Arnold question.
At what point in the Fashion and the Furious timeline
does Dom Tero's ability to survive inossible physics canonically
more powerful the actual concept of horsepower?
Of horsepower?
Yeah.
I'll let you think about that one.
Arnold, he's saying horsepower as an HORSE, not WH.
Yeah.
Yeah, I know Because of like.
You know, you know, I was like thinking, is it Triple X the movie that he did?
No, no, not that one.
Because that's a different world.
But yeah, horsepower, like from Fastaster and Fear with cars.
It's like he does crazy stunts
in Triple X as well with a car.
Yeah.
Vin Diesel has to be the luckiest guy in Hollywood because
he gets to do all this big franchise.
He gets to do Groot.
He gets to do like all these random action movies that he's done in the past.
I mean,
I think Johnny Depp's career is pretty cool.
What you talk about doing different characters.
I just mean this like as far as like low effort.
Oh, low effort.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, I got you.
Put him in a car.
Put him in a car.
That's what he's doing.
Gr, even lower e effort is Have you guys seen the
Viet, I think he's Vietnamese, Vietnamese Vin Diesel.
No.
It's an Asian dude.
I know what you's talking about..
He looks so much like him and like he got like so much popularity because of that
And, you know, like he shows up at places with people that want to take pictures with him.
He gets like Children's parties.
It's like Ven is spelled VIINH or something?
Yeah.
All right, fellas.
Well, hey, I mean, that's the Fast and the Furious movie,
the first original OG, Fast and the Furious.
How are we feeling?
Are we ready for final thoughts, or do we want to keep breaking down this action movie?
Well, I wanted to mention that I think
Paul Walker was the right choice, but you know that that wasn't their first choice.
Did you guys read on that?
No.
No.
So some of the actors that they considered before they went to Paul Walker, the first was Eminem
but he was shooting Eight Mile, which came out the year right after.
So he turned.
He wouldn't have stuck around for this franchise.
Right, Ryan Gosling?
Ryan, yeah.
No, the NXO was Mark Wahlberg after having been.
Oh Yeah.
And then that was a no.
That would have been.
And Christian Bale was also one, and that was a no also.
He.
But yeah, I think they went with the right choice.
Wasn't Gal Gado in one of these movies at some point?
Oh, yeah.
Gal
So Kang is so lucky.
Yeah.
Uh-huh Wait.
Then these don't know.
That's my Gal Gado impression.
This is this is random.
This is just me, like, because I was bored.
But I was like, I wonder which of these of these characters
have the most like, you know, infractions with cars,
like speeding tickets and stuff like that in real real life.
Do you guys want to take a guess who it is?
Oh, oh, yes.
I don't
My guess is Paul Walker.
Yeah.
Anybody else want to guess?
I'm going to say Ben Diesel.
It's Jordana Brewster.
Yo, okay.
Alex Gosling.
It's Michelle Rodriguez.
Oh, really?
Yes.
I think she's had like a lot, like a lot of people.
I think she's like been on the news for a lot of that too, right?
I think she went to jail for it for like avoiding a court.
That's right.
She's gotten.
She's going to give up.
She's a little.
She's a little naughty.
Yeah, she's gotten a DUIs.
I think a couple DUIs under her belt, too.
But her and Jord's character,
they didn't have licenses when this movie when they got casted.
I thought that was funny, too.
That's so funny.
So they had to go to like special driving.
Yeah, yeah.
They had to go through like special driving courses or driving experience classes.
Was there a driver's instructor in the backseat every time they go?
They got their speciales in the back before
they even got into the movie because they didn't have a license.
It's kind of wild.
I remember when Georgiana Brewster was on MTV Cribs, you know, like the.
Oh, that's I seen her.
I forgot about that.
Yeah, I don't know why she brought up.
She's like, she's like, oh, and this, I ate about one of these every day.
It was a whole pineapple.
I'm like, why?
She wants your sperm to taste good, that's why.
Yeah, yeah.
That's a joke. that's a We'll cut that out.
We'll cut that.
And make it.
Because pineapple and We' edit it and post boosts your metabolism and that's how she stays so thin.
And it's very California.
Hawaii.
I agree..
Has digestive enzymes, Arnold?
Rom.
Yeah.
It helps the break down proteins.
There you go.
Yeah.
That's bromine in it.
You know your food sign science, Arnold.
Wow.
I got to give you credit for that.
Well, I got to give it a shout out to the juice man, R.I.P.
Jay Cordage.
Oh.
Yeah.
Pour one for him.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know that is car little carrot apple, ginger juice.
Yeah.
Listen, we've lost Dolly Part and we've lost Tim Curry.
Like, who else can we possibly stand to lose?
Peter Cole, we lost Peter Cullhen then..
Oh, Peter Co.
Wait, who was Peter Cohen?
The voice of Optimus Prime.
Oh, that's Prime.
And Eor.
Autobots.
And Eor, too.
E
yep.
There's no nobody's sacred, you know, death.
Why are you killing the wrong 80-year-olds?
You know what I'm saying?
Like, there's other 80 year olds I can think of that deserve it more than.
No, anyway, it doesn't matter.
All right, fellas.
What's the name?
I can name one off the top of my head.
Okay, yeah, yeah.
Harrison Ford?
No, no.
We love Harrison.
Dude, Speaking you just.
Stop that.
Shut your mouth.
I know.
What was the guy on Reddit that said Ben?
He made a joke about in like the next day Betty White passed or something.
Yeah.
You're going to be that guy for that guy.
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All right, well, you know what?
If there's nothing else, I think it's time to do the final thoughts on this movie.
We'll go around the room.
Alex, I want to start with you.
What are your final thoughts?
Fast and the Furious.
It was better way better than I expected
that I wrote it off years ago.
And 25 years later, I'm
not going to say that I eat my words, but I did enjoy it
to a degree.
I'm not going to go go back and watch it.
It was fun.
It was a fun film.
I I had way more of an enjoyable
time than watching Masters of Universe, that's for sure.
That was eh.
I
would I would rather watch Fast and the Furious again than Masters of the Universe.
You's talking about the new one?
It was awful.
Yep.
That one was so bad.
Wow.
And I
gave this one a three, just out of like the pure fun of it all.
And you can find me at Daily Dare's at all the socials.
Nice.
Donnie, what are your final thoughts
I like this movie a lot.
It's just it has a special place in my heart.
It takes me back to to that time.
I own it, you know and I've watched it looks like Arnold like tons of times.
It's usually on the background too, if I'm not.
This is a comfort movie for you?
Yeah, for sure, for sure.
And I just, I recommend it for anybody who hasn't watched it.
And for anybody who has ever involved in the car scene in
the late, late 90s, or early 2000s, I don't know how you haven't watched this
if you haven't, but I feel like anybody that, you know, was into that scene
has probably already picked this up and watched it.
Um, but yeah, uh
I like this movie a lot..
The acting is not top notch, but definitely like something I would recommend.
But you won't forget it.
I won't forget it.
It's a very memorable film.
Yes
We talked about a lot about the car aspect
of this movie, but forgot to mention the theme of this movie is actually about, like, you know about family.
I mean, in their case, it's like, you know, their car family.
family, but also about like loyalty, right?
Like, and that's, I think that's why he didn't react
the way that you expected him to react when he found out that Ryan was a cop, right?
Because he saved his ass numerous times throughout the movie
And then one last thing, that whole scene
that Arnold was talking about with the Ferrari, that's like big in
the real car scene because
there's this whole battle between like people who build
their cars and put money into their cars versus people who just
have money and just buy out their cars and thinking that their car is fast because they spent more money on it.
So that's like a real beef that happens in the real world.
So I think that's why they put that in there is just kind of like a nod to
to all those tuners that actually put money in time into creating
their cars and building it versus just buying it off the lot and thinking they're to fast fastest car out there.
That's interesting.
It's a whole subculture I know nothing about
Yeah.
I love that scene where Dom comes home and he's like, where were you guys?
He actually came back and filled me out.
Where the hell were you at, Vince?
And he's like, why'd you bring the buster?
Because the buster kept me out of hand.
You didn't just run back to the fort.
The buster brought me back.
Well, thank you for that, Donny
Where could people find you
You can find me at underscore Donnie Appeed on Instagram.
Also, if you want to follow my photography, it's 125 photography.
Oh, I'm going to drop this just because we're talking about this movie.
I have a car page also, if anybody wants to follow it.
It's Hatch and Wagon Alliance, just straight through.
We focus on mainly hatchback and station wagon
silhouettes for cars.
So if you're a fan of those type of vehicles, follow that page.
What was your score?
Oh, yeah, what was your score?
Oh, I'm sorry.
What was it out of?
Out of five?
Is that what we do?
I'm going to give.
Yeah.
Letterbox V.
Letterbox out of.
A letterbox.
Four.
Four?
Yeah.
Well, no, Letterbox is five stars out of five, actually.
So Right.
He's given it a four out of five.
Oh, I's checking.
I wasn't sure.
Justin, what are your final thoughts?
You can't just choose me next, man.
I'm just kidding.
Yo, this movie is super fun and thrilling.
I I love it a lot.
It's classic.
Classic cars.
I love the street racing.
I love the fighting.
I love the guns and explosions.
It's a fun watch.
I don't know what else to really say about it that we haven't covered already.
I'm always excited to watch Fast and Furious.
I'm a little late to the game on watching it, but I'm glad that
I was able to pick it up and watch it when I did because I
kind of have like a love hate relationship with this franchise.
There's a lot of movies that I really love.
There's a few movies that I really don't love a whole lot.
But overall, they
get progressively ridiculous.
It's now like more or less a
cartoon of a movie.
It's a cartoon of itself, which is where
a caricature of itself now, as the movies have progressed.
I I hope that the what I'm assuming is
going to be the last of their movie of their franchise
I hope that they kind of reel it back in just a little
bit and make it a little bit more grounded, like it was in the past,
especially since I know that they're going to be bringing some old characters back.
At least I hope I'm right.
It would be wise of them to do so
at this point in the franchise.
But yeah, I mean, I'm just going to keep it super simple.
It's a fun movie.
There's some cool stuff that happens in it.
And if you, even if you're not a car person, I think this
movie can still be a very enjoyable watch because
you don't really need to be a car person to know a whole lot what's going on.
I mean, it would help because you'd be like, I don't know what the fuck this lingo is.
I don't know what they're talking about.
I'm not a car guy, but I still enjoy this movie for what it is.
So I'm going to give it a three and a half out of five.
You can follow me
Shibbs the Zombie on Instagram or my art
page, Ghost Nerd 88, which I would prefer you to
follow me on, because I will eventually produce some art, you know?
Yeah, other than that, on to the next.
Nice.
Well, thank you for that, Justin.
Arnold, quick final thoughts, and then, you know, you know what comes after that?
All we know, we know, man.
There's so many lines.
I just have to mention, Granny shifting not double clutching like you should.
Right here to the car, dog.s, man.
Just a lot of like really.
There's some pages that on Instagram
that's hilarious of people who just the watch walk up to people
in certain, like just in public, and then they'll just start reciting the lines
from the movie and then people, they're like thrown off.
My favorite, I just want to mention my favorite one
of my favorite scenes in the movie is when they Basupra
races against the Ferrari, he pulls up to him
on PCH and he's like, oh yeah.
Why can't I think of the line now?
How much does He's like more than you can afford, pal.
Ferrari.
And Dom's just like spoke him.
That was that scene.
I don't know what that added to the plot, but it was a good moment.
Yeah.
Just because, you know, you have a car
from the street race world versus,
you know, this exotic car.
Yeah, Ferrari.
That's a big thing, right?
Yeah.
It didn't add a lot to the plot, but it did add to the characters.
A lot of the people who know all the lines for the movie
you know, they would have been like, oh, he couldn't have said Granny
Shift and not double clutching like he should.
But, man, this movie really
does hold a special place in my heart as well.
I've got like special group
chats that's just the Fast and Furious stuff.
And I really love this movie.
I love the action.
I'd to give it a five out of five.
I think that's the
I can't remember of five on Letterbox.
What's your name on Letterbox again?
I think Arnie Cole.
Oh I'm Arnie Coleleo, by the way, everywhere.
Hold on.
Do you have you have a letterbox, Darnold?
I mean.
Yeah, Arnie Cleo.
There he is.
I've got to catch up on, um
Yeah.
uh.
Everything?
Yeah.
He's got like six years of movies to rate.
I used the scale, you know, out
of five stars.
Kisses.
Yeah, Kisses, Arnold.
No, no, that's Kui Manny's Manny movie guys ratings.
Oh, yeah.
We got to get Manny on.
Yeah, no, it's eggplants.
Eggplants.
Oh, yeah.
That's interesting.
That's difference.
That's good protein.
I give it five egg plots.
Hey.
All right, Arnold.
Well, hey, where can people find you really quick?
Yeah, Arnie, Cgo everywhere.
Um, You'll probably see me reposting some Fast and Nuperior stuff
But, yeah, you'll see all my cooking,
all my, all the stuff I'm into.
Nice, nice.
All right, well, hey, it's that time for the show, Arnold.
I think I already know what the score is going to be, but let's do it anyway.
Let's do the Arnold snooze amia.
All right, Arnold.
So what do we think?
Negative.
59 Wow.
Z rating.
Wow That's pretty good.
This is the movie.
It could be negative, whatever.
could be.
I think it on.
And then I'm going to stay up,
you know, until the movie's over.
I'll put this movie on.
I'll call in sick.
I'll put this movie on.
Oh, a family emerencygency came up.
I'll be back in the office
a little later.
You know, Negative 69.
Wow.
So this is like the movie version of a meth for you.
It helped me get clean.
Well, that's good.
Because he knows.
From one addiction to
that, you know, I just watched that all the time.
It provided the same kind of like energy for me.
It got me hyped up
Yeah.
You know, would watch this then I would watch this before going to the club.
You know, as I got older club definition now
being like every time you got tempted by actual meth, you just watched them.
It is what it is.
Yeah, it is.
Now, I'm interested now, Adrian.
So
you know, last but not least, best for last, you,
Mr. BOTZ too big.
Thank you, It's your final thoughts.
I enjoyed this movie.
I know, I thought I was going to hate it too.
I didn't hate it at all.
I was never bored.
I think that the pacing was really good.
Obviously, it's a fast-paced story.
It's a story about a guy
who wants to take down this gang
that steals DVDs and he ends up becoming friends with
one guy, obviously, the Dong, the main guy.
And he falls in love with his sister, it's his sister, right?
Played by Jordana Brewster.
And then he comes at crossroads of what does he do?
I thought Dom was was going to kill him when he finds out that he's a cop and he just kind of looks at him.
And I liked how he just kind of walks off.
He's like, let's get out of here.
Let's get out of here.
You don't he doesn't say it.
You don't hear him, but you see him telling Dorden and be like, you know, let's go.
And stuff.
I thought that was a really good moment, the way they played that.
Legitimately, I really thought that was good.
And I was curious how they're going to wrap all this up with the cops and everything.
And they didn't.
They just kind of like, like I said that's why I was wondering.
Like they didn't didn't close the loop in this movie
but it still works.
And I really like that the final race
between Dom and Paul Walker's character at the end of the Bell That was so tense as well.
And overall, it was just a fun, you know,
throwback to an early, a bygone era.
I mean, I always like
seeing movies when they look like movies, and then like I miss that era
of like the lack of technology that they had back then, you know, what's that mean?
Like, oh, not a single person on their phone.
Like that sort of thing.
Like here, everybody feels like they're locked in, you know?
Like everybody feels like they're a real character.
That whole desert race sequence, I thought that was great as well
And they even make room for a subplot with
the motorcycle gang guys, right?
Like, I thought that was all good.
But yeah, overall, I enjoyed it.
You know, fun movie, you know, judge it for what
it is and for what it's not, for what it's not, you know?
So I think I'll give this and pull it up really quick on my Letterbox
I'm going to give this a very strong three
and a half stars out of five on Letterbox.
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